i have found a Triac with BT30 ATC and flood and the chap also has a Boxford 250

they are both 1990's machines but look to have had just the usual minimal educational use.

both are unconverted and while the Triac may be usable as is the Boxford has no PC so will need a new controller at least. i am digging around online to find any info on that side but will probably need to wait until i actually have them.

they both manually jog and run so they should be a good starting point. the Boxford is bigger than i was intending but its a nice looking machine and i can hopefully improve the deal by having both

biggest issue is the current travel restrictions and earning worries mean that the buyer of my kit cant stop working or get to me to buy them so i cant fund the purchase until he can......

given all thats going on in the world its a trivial problem but more than a little frustrating