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  1. #1
    No joy....
    Now it will run forward but not in reverse...…
    This has me baffled.


    It will run forward but not reverse with the Cap on pin2
    It will run reverse but not forward with the Cap on pin4


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    This switching scheme rotates the removed bus bars through 90 degrees, is there a way I could cause damage by trying the cap on the other two pins?

  2. #2
    Have you seen this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

    I take it, it is a single phase motor with a capacitor

    When your motor runs up to speed do you here a click and another when it slows down.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

  3. #3
    Hi Clive
    Its single phase according to the plate and it has a single capacitor
    I hear no click on the run-up or run-down

    Its an old Clarke motor that yields very little when run through google :(

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by blackburn mark View Post
    Hi Clive
    Its single phase according to the plate and it has a single capacitor
    I hear no click on the run-up or run-down

    Its an old Clarke motor that yields very little when run through google :(
    Do you know how it was wired originally. Watch the vid till the end
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    Do you know how it was wired originally. Watch the vid till the end
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    In its original wiring, it runs counter-clockwise as I face the shaft.... I can get it to run clockwise by rotating the bus bars through 90 degrees BUT I have to also move the Cap from pin2 to pin4 which seems odd and I don't have enough pins in the tumbler switch I have in order to implement that.
    I was hoping an expert would reveal how dumb I was and say something like "you reverse it by moving the cap only"



    I did, I don't know much about AC motor schemes but that motor looked (and sounded) like a different beast to mine.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    Do you know how it was wired originally. Watch the vid till the end
    That is my question now too.

    I would expect all motor wires on 1 side actually... may my bad.

    Do we agree on the schematic?

    Grtz Bert.

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    Or this....?


    We are seeing this from different perspectives my good man
    I have a very poor grasp of the underlying/fundamental functions of the varying flavours of AC motors
    If this image represents my conundrum, it does so in an abstract that I am struggling to convert into pin numbers.
    I don't know how I get four pins from the three nodes

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by blackburn mark View Post
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    Or this....?


    We are seeing this from different perspectives my good man
    I have a very poor grasp of the underlying/fundamental functions of the varying flavours of AC motors
    If this image represents my conundrum, it does so in an abstract that I am struggling to convert into pin numbers.
    I don't know how I get four pins from the three nodes
    Haha yes last 2 pictures work for me.

    There is no real difference.
    effect is the same.


    The bus bars i am not sure of until we know where u1 v1 w1 motor wire go.

    What is confusing in the picture is what wires are capacitor and what is the power cord.

    Normally motorwires are all below the busbar no need to mess arround with them.

    looks like u2 v2 w2 starpoint is hidden in this motor.

    Grtz Bert.

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  10. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by driftspin View Post
    Haha yes last 2 pictures work for me.

    There is no real difference.
    effect is the same.


    The bus bars i am not sure of until we know where u1 v1 w1 motor wire go.

    What is confusing in the picture is what wires are capacitor and what is the power cord.

    Normally motorwires are all below the busbar no need to mess arround with them.

    looks like u2 v2 w2 starpoint is hidden in this motor.

    Grtz Bert.

    Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A320FL met Tapatalk
    Just make sure the capacitor never touches both fase and neutral directly, it will blow the fuse and capacitor too i think.

    Grtz Bert

    Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A320FL met Tapatalk

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    The u1 v1 w1 (as you call them) must be the three white wires under the "X" symbols
    I might be able to make sense after some drawing and thinking :)

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