eBay router

[JAZZCNC]

Wow how insulting!

Read my reply, this machine cuts and cuts beautifully and at speed, I missed off these are dry cuts, hence already planning bits that can cut up to 2000mm/minute feed rate, dry cut, single pass into aluminium.

I also made it clear on the comparison positioning in the market for this product, it's not AXYZ but then not all of us have budgets or room for them!

It's a router not a milling machine, it's designed for sheet stock.

And no I have no association with this company, the difference is, I do own one and can speak from experience and not supposition.

Ok well first my apologies it was not my intent to insult you.!

The point of my comments was to point out that this machine is too weak to cut aluminum correctly and by that i mean with a good DOC and nice surface finish. Thin Sheet stock like 1050 is slightly different because it's simply getting the correct feed rates and cutting it in a single pass, the quality of edge finish isn't usually a big concern within reason.
However, many of those looking at these machines who are new to CNC and want to cut aluminum want to actually Mill thick stock ie 20-30mm+ and these machines just cannot do that correctly because like you say they are designed for sheet stock. But comments like " The machine on ebay cuts aluminium fine, all day long, despite being designed for cutting MDF. Nice clean cuts even in thin 1050 sheet." gives a false impression and people buy based off these type of comments only to be disappointed. My comments are given to point these things out so folks are fully aware.!

Now your comment about you being the "user and experience" then normally I would totally agree with you and usually I'm very reluctant to comment on a product I haven't used personally but in this case my experience of building many different sizes and styles of machines often for aluminum cutting means I am very qualified to critic this machine or any machine of the same design and build quality, even if it is only 2.5K.!

Again please don't take what I'm about to say personally because it's more a statement of fact about what I often come across and given the fact you have bought this machine it may apply.!!
Often I deal with people who have either bought or built machines and they think they work great and cut great or are built strong.!! . . When in fact they are actually performing low to medium and quite weakly built. They think this based on there experience which is formed just on that one machine or an even lesser quality machine and only when they see properly designed and built machine do they appreciate the difference.!
So Experience is relative which is why I know anyone who as experience wouldn't buy this machine for cutting aluminum other than thin sheet.!! . . I wouldn't even buy it for cutting MDF if I'm honest but that's just me with my experience.!. . . . Would make a nice plasma machine thou.!

[Chip Owner]

Ok well first my apologies it was not my intent to insult you.!

The point of my comments was to point out that this machine is too weak to cut aluminum correctly and by that i mean with a good DOC and nice surface finish. Thin Sheet stock like 1050 is slightly different because it's simply getting the correct feed rates and cutting it in a single pass, the quality of edge finish isn't usually a big concern within reason.
However, many of those looking at these machines who are new to CNC and want to cut aluminum want to actually Mill thick stock ie 20-30mm+ and these machines just cannot do that correctly because like you say they are designed for sheet stock. But comments like " The machine on ebay cuts aluminium fine, all day long, despite being designed for cutting MDF. Nice clean cuts even in thin 1050 sheet." gives a false impression and people buy based off these type of comments only to be disappointed. My comments are given to point these things out so folks are fully aware.!

Now your comment about you being the "user and experience" then normally I would totally agree with you and usually I'm very reluctant to comment on a product I haven't used personally but in this case my experience of building many different sizes and styles of machines often for aluminum cutting means I am very qualified to critic this machine or any machine of the same design and build quality, even if it is only 2.5K.!

Again please don't take what I'm about to say personally because it's more a statement of fact about what I often come across and given the fact you have bought this machine it may apply.!!
Often I deal with people who have either bought or built machines and they think they work great and cut great or are built strong.!! . . When in fact they are actually performing low to medium and quite weakly built. They think this based on there experience which is formed just on that one machine or an even lesser quality machine and only when they see properly designed and built machine do they appreciate the difference.!
So Experience is relative which is why I know anyone who as experience wouldn't buy this machine for cutting aluminum other than thin sheet.!! . . I wouldn't even buy it for cutting MDF if I'm honest but that's just me with my experience.!. . . . Would make a nice plasma machine thou.!

There is no point to your comment, other than conceited arrogance, in which your 'opinion' is irrelevant and if I hadn't already been convinced to ignore all your opinions!

Clearly over some time, presumably in here with an echo chamber fan base, you've convinced yourself your some kind of demigod in the CNC arena rather than just another trivial keyboard forum snob.

The ebay machine referred is a perfectly good, budget small shop production or even hobby, flatbed router - get over it!

[JAZZCNC]

There is no point to your comment, other than conceited arrogance, in which your 'opinion' is irrelevant and if I hadn't already been convinced to ignore all your opinions!

Clearly over some time, presumably in here with an echo chamber fan base, you've convinced yourself your some kind of demigod in the CNC arena rather than just another trivial keyboard forum snob.

The ebay machine referred is a perfectly good, budget small shop production or even hobby, flatbed router - get over it!

If my comments stop just one person buying this machine without knowing exactly what they are buying then I've succeeded.!! . . . . . Now I did say DON'T take my comments personally because they were never aimed at you or to offend you but yet you seem to think it's ok to attack me personally.!! . . . Maybe it's you who needs to get over it.!. .

[Chip Owner]

If my comments stop just one person buying this machine without knowing exactly what they are buying then I've succeeded.!! . . . . . Now I did say DON'T take my comments personally because they were never aimed at you or to offend you but yet you seem to think it's ok to attack me personally.!! . . . Maybe it's you who needs to get over it.!. .

And in such a childish response, your reply confirms my summation of your arrogance, ignorance and nastiness.

You are the last person anyone should listen to for advice on CNC's, so far up your own backside your void of anything substantial, just supposition and opinion.

I hope my exposing you in here for the CNC snob you are, will confirm that the real experts that folks need to consult when buying or even using machines aren't found hanging around forums, where only keyboard fantasists with delusions of grandeur like you are found.

The real experts are out in the real world.

Unfortunately for you, the machine mentioned in this thread WORKS does all the things you say it can't! That's a fact you can never change!

Get over it.