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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo1966 View Post
    Thank you.

    A couple of things if I may?

    One thing that sort of confused me when i first looked at the diagram - twisted pairs? You mention connecting Step/Dir pins to 6/8 and ground to 5/7. The diagram is confusing, it shows a single pulse going in e.g Pulse A and it terminates on 6 - 5???

    The differential lines are - not clear admittedly - intended to show the interconnect between your control system (MB3 in your case) and the servo controller.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo1966 View Post
    Apart from where you cannot on the MB3 are the connections to the Sevo drivers the same? If using a single ended drive do i need to connect a 12 - 24v supply as mentioned on page 13? Do I need it for a differential drive?

    The MB3 supports both.
    Ah, sorry, didn't realise the MB3 support differential drives. If you're taking the signal over any distance then a differential twist pair is beneficial for noise-rejection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo1966 View Post
    Sorry for the basic questions - I just don't want to blow up the £200 MB3 breakout board.

    thanks again - the advice is appreciated.

    Edit: just found a better diagram (helps me understand) in the MB3 documentation:
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    I added the pin numbers from the Panasonic doc, does that look correct? How can you tell that pins 5, 7 are ground? (the scan shows order from top down (6, 5, 8, 7) as per my latest attached diagram.

    Do I connect a dedicated 24v to pin 11+ and 28- ? For single ended? and not differential? Both or none?

    thanks again
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    The bits circled in red - these are the LEDs of the opto-isolator inputs. The lead connected to the triangular bit is "+", the bar crossing the pointy bit of the triangle is ground. Hence - ground is 5,7 and the signal positive is 6,8. To the immediate-left of these are similar symbols, but reversed - these are normal (non-light-emitting) diodes intended to protect the LEDs from a reverse voltage as would be presented by a differential drive (LEDs are susceptible to damage like this).

    Also, confusingly, over on the left - the triangular line drivers - the bottom output wire has a little dot on it - denotes an inverted signal. So "PLUS A" (ignoring typo) is PULS - non-inverted (active = high), and "PLUS B" is PULS - inverted (active = low). You could interpret (wrongly) the cross-over in the wires as the wires swapping - that's not the intent of the diagram - it's supposed to show an indeterminate length of cable. The drawing is designed to confuse.

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    12-24V between pins 11 & 28 - these are required for the control inputs shown, nothing to do with step/dir but likely required to provide control to the driver.
    Last edited by Doddy; 28-08-2020 at 12:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddy View Post
    The differential lines are - not clear admittedly - intended to show the interconnect between your control system (MB3 in your case) and the servo controller.



    Ah, sorry, didn't realise the MB3 support differential drives. If you're taking the signal over any distance then a differential twist pair is beneficial for noise-rejection.



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    The bits circled in red - these are the LEDs of the opto-isolator inputs. The lead connected to the triangular bit is "+", the bar crossing the pointy bit of the triangle is ground. Hence - ground is 5,7 and the signal positive is 6,8. To the immediate-left of these are similar symbols, but reversed - these are normal (non-light-emitting) diodes intended to protect the LEDs from a reverse voltage as would be presented by a differential drive (LEDs are susceptible to damage like this).

    Also, confusingly, over on the left - the triangular line drivers - the bottom output wire has a little dot on it - denotes an inverted signal. So "PLUS A" (ignoring typo) is PULS - non-inverted (active = high), and "PLUS B" is PULS - inverted (active = low). You could interpret (wrongly) the cross-over in the wires as the wires swapping - that's not the intent of the diagram - it's supposed to show an indeterminate length of cable. The drawing is designed to confuse.

    EDIT:


    12-24V between pins 11 & 28 - these are required for the control inputs shown, nothing to do with step/dir but likely required to provide control to the driver.
    Brilliant - thank you. I agree from a newbie veiwpoint the drawings are difficult to interpret if you aren't experienced in that arena. I'm 99% OK now. Still confused on the 24v bit though :-/

    Can't wait until I have to put settings in Mach4 - that should be fun...

    thanks again
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