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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty_UK View Post
    Hey Jazz

    Aluminium, engineering plastics and some mild steel - I imagine the most common will the aluminium though. I had considered changing the main drive after the CNC to get higher speed and more constant torque

    Thanks
    Well in that case I would look long and hard before buying a Mini mill because very few will have the RPM you need for cutting aluminium and soft materials correctly and converting the spindle is not a simple or cheap thing to do.

    If you want a challenge you may be better off DIY building a strong Fixed gantry Router/Mill that will do everything you need and then some with the correct spindle fitted. It will certainly be more versatile and useful than a converted Minimill and won't cost much more. Here's one I built a few years ago (yellow one) with a 500 x 500 cut area and also one we built recently that is fully covered designed exclusively for cutting Aluminium moulds with a cut area of 600 x 400 which is more or equal to many industrial CNC machines but fits in a 1mtr/2 space.!

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    Last edited by JAZZCNC; 21-01-2022 at 04:08 PM.
    -use common sense, if you lack it, there is no software to help that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Well in that case I would look long and hard before buying a Mini mill because very few will have the RPM you need for cutting aluminium and soft materials correctly and converting the spindle is not a simple or cheap thing to do.

    If you want a challenge you may be better off DIY building a strong Fixed gantry Router/Mill that will do everything you need and then some with the correct spindle fitted. It will certainly be more versatile and useful than a converted Minimill and won't cost much more.
    Its amusing that this is where i started - then the thought process led me down the path of buying a machine and converting it :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Well in that case I would look long and hard before buying a Mini mill because very few will have the RPM you need for cutting aluminium and soft materials correctly and converting the spindle is not a simple or cheap thing to do.

    If you want a challenge you may be better off DIY building a strong Fixed gantry Router/Mill that will do everything you need and then some with the correct spindle fitted. It will certainly be more versatile and useful than a converted Minimill and won't cost much more. Here's one I built a few years ago (yellow one) with a 500 x 500 cut area and also one we built recently that is fully covered designed exclusively for cutting Aluminium moulds with a cut area of 600 x 400 which is more or equal to many industrial CNC machines but fits in a 1mtr/2 space.!

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    The blue one looks very impressive - do you know the build cost of that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    If you want a challenge you may be better off DIY building a strong Fixed gantry Router/Mill that will do everything you need and then some with the correct spindle fitted. It will certainly be more versatile and useful than a converted Minimill and won't cost much more. Here's one I built a few years ago (yellow one) with a 500 x 500 cut area and also one we built recently that is fully covered designed exclusively for cutting Aluminium moulds with a cut area of 600 x 400 which is more or equal to many industrial CNC machines but fits in a 1mtr/2 space.!
    ATC BT30 Cartridge and 5000rpm servo drive belted to 7500rpm at the nose, too heavy???.

    Or is there a 6k-8krpm ATC BT30 motor option out there?.

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    A little late in the mix.

    Total cost.
    Depends how far you want to go. The type\brand\quality of ball screws can be a big factor. Then there's open loop steppers vs closed loop steppers vs servo.
    After that is the control infrastructure, Mach, grbl, Linuxcnc or other. Then with Mach & Linuxcnc there is a choice of using Parallel Port hardware or external motion control. For Linuxcnc the most popular and well support external motion control is the Mesa FPGA cards, with them you have the choice of PCI, PCIe, Ethernet or SPI in the case of the Raspberry Pi. Tho there are a few projects that are repurposing the NVEM boards with custom software, another that repurposing ColorLight FPGA boards. Or there you can use a Orange Pi with the H3\H5 Cpu that uses the on die mcu.
    Then after all that, there are PSUs and control boxes to think of, and of course wiring, switch, pendants, lights and a thousand other gubbins to think of. Then theres the chance you may need to buy quality crimpers, after a while you get sick of the cheaper stuff.

    Now after all that here comes the expensive part. What vice are you going for, are you going to use standard collets or if you have an R8 spindle the Tormach system or the cheaper chinese knock offs.

    Then after a while you are going to want a coolant system and then after dealing with the mess an enclosure\tray might be next.

    After that point you kind of put the total cost to the back of your mind as you don't want to think about it.

    And finally depending on the country you live in postage\delivery\taxes can add a fair amount.

    Unless you're buying an actual factory cnc mill it's hard to put a price on it.

    And here's something.......after a while you realise that some of the tasks you do were quicker when the mill was manual.

    And the final kicker, the mill you have will be a little bit smaller for the task at hand.

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    Thanks for all the responses - a lot of good point have been made and has given me things to ponder :)

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    Just found my Zeus book from 1982 - well happy :)

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