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    dudz's Avatar
    Lives in Dunedin, New Zealand. Last Activity: 09-02-2025 Has a total post count of 295. Received thanks 2 times, giving thanks to others 79 times.
    I have an alpha 025 hss cse-25 countersink bit. (3 flutes)

    I tried for the first time today, pushing it into a 12mm dia through hole in mild steel on the cnc mill. I used 250rpm (my cnc mill lowest rpm). Surface speed of 20m/min - plunge rate of 64mm/min . That's what fusion through out. I'm using flood coolant

    I pulled it up half way on each hole to remove swarf and continued. Ok until I got 2/3rds of the way in. It sounded like it was rubbing - then pushed up further into the ER32 collet and span in the collet. Now got to order a new collet.

    Was I way out on the feeds/speeds ?
    Last edited by dudz; 08-02-2025 at 06:36 AM.
    Swedish Storbro Luna - 3 axis CNC mIll - 250 - 2500rpm / 1.1 tonne

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    Lives in Lytham St. Annes, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 2 Hours Ago Has been a member for 7-8 years. Has a total post count of 446. Received thanks 69 times, giving thanks to others 15 times.
    That's a plunge rate of >1mm per second. That might be ok for the first mm or so but with a countersink, the spindle load increases proportional to the depth.

    When countersinking (chamfering) a hole under CNC control, I always run the tool around the hole, using it as a milling cutter rather than a countersink. And rather than use a large 25mm countersink tool, I'd use a smaller (eg 6mm) chamfer mill. For a hole that isn't close to any vertical features that might interfere, you could still use the large countersink but I'd recommend using a profile toolpath rather than a drill cycle.

    When generating a chamfer (actually 2D profile) toolpath in Fusion, you either model the feature without the chamfer then add the chamfer in CAM - or you model the chamfer and run the chamfer toolpath in CAM (2D profile etc) without any additional chamfer "depth" programmed.

    Like this:
    Last edited by Muzzer; 08-02-2025 at 04:10 PM.

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    Lives in Dunedin, New Zealand. Last Activity: 09-02-2025 Has a total post count of 295. Received thanks 2 times, giving thanks to others 79 times.
    Nice, sounds the way to go. After I thought of boring the countersink hole with a 10mm carbide endmill at 0.5mm step-downs so most of the material is gone then using the countersink bit, which prob would have been much kinder on my cnc. But your way seems a huge improvement on that. The countersink had to be around 10mm deep, so the full flute of the 25mm tool had to be in the hole.
    Last edited by dudz; 08-02-2025 at 08:22 PM.
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    3 axis CNC/router / Alu profile frame....25mm Alu Cutting bed X=500mm Y=300mm Z=110mm.....Supported 25mm X rails ....Supported 20mm Y rails....Supported 20mm Z rails.....2.2kw Chinese WC spindle..... CSLAB CSMIO/IP-M 4-axis Ethernet Motion Controller....M542 Drivers..SY60STH86-3008BF Motors...running....Mach3 / Cambam / Emachineshop.

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