Off topic - Ah, I take it you've not done one of those before :) there's always a first time... never (in my book at least) a second one... this time i got a couple of nice Polish guys, nicknamed Radish and Leek (thats my nearest pronounciation of their names) who did a blinding job in a week that would have taken me months (plumbing, tiling, electrical - I can do it, just not as quickly) and that included keeping building control happy...