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    The main benefit of Gecko's is the microstep to full step morphing, plus they're small!

    I've got 2 G251s in my lathe, and can't fault them.
    I did think about getting the G540, but it wouldn't of fitted in the control housing, and I already had the SmoothStepper and C23 break out board so didn't really need any of the additional features of the G540. If I was to start from scratch, I probably would go for the G540, as it does most things you need (inputs/outputs/0-10V speed control) in one plug and play package. Just add power, a parallel cable, some steppers and resistors, and you're good to go.
    If you do still consider the G540, look at the GC-02 and GC-04 connectors from www.homanndesigns.com, as they make wiring even simpler!
    Also, the Gecko customer appreciation sale must be about due, so if you're not in any hurry, keep an eye out to get the drives even cheaper than what the UK importer charges

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    Thanks Jonathan, lol, I got as far as "Magnetic backlash" and decided I need far more coffee than I've had already! I'll leave it for tomorrow! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    The main benefit of Gecko's is the microstep to full step morphing, plus they're small!

    Thanks, m_c, I'll face the rigours of JB's reading list in the morning! I'd seen the Homann site, it was very helpful and the ease of installation of the 540 is a bonus although sorting the electricals doesn't concern me as much as some of the other decisions! (It's just like wiring a plug, lots of plugs! )

    I'll certainly keep an eye open for the sale! Thanks for your help!

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    I'll compare with PM752 driver as that's what I have. Copied from Gecko site:

    3.5A 50VDC maximum PM752, 75V & greater current
    Digitally filtered STEP, DIRECTION and DISABLE inputs same
    3.3V and 5V logic compatible inputs Same I think, can go higher with resistor. Also if you accidently pop one with 75V it's easy to replace the optoisolator :naughty:
    300 kHz maximum step pulse frequency same, but who needs more than about 50kHz anyway
    Top settable Adjust trimpot None
    Power LED indicator same
    No user settable jumpers PM752 has internal jumpers for motor direction and something else I can't remember ... not much use really
    20 kHz switching frequency I'm pretty sure PM752 is much higher, will check it with scope tomorrow
    Mid-band resonance compensated Probably none
    Microstep to full step morphing at higher speeds Probably none
    Small size Nobody cares
    Four layer PCB That just means they weren't good enough to make it 2-layer
    Discrete all N-channel MOSFET full bridge design same
    14A rated power MOSFETs PM752 mosfets are 33A and 100V, so will almost certainly have lower Rds and therefore power dissipation.
    3.5mm 12 position connector with screw type terminal Pluggable, which in my opinion is better
    Recirculate mode while the motor is stopped, reducing motor heating Probably none
    70% current when stationary 50% on PM752 so possibly lower power dissipation - possibly not due to the above, can be changed with a bit of effort

    Maybe I should have compared with a different Gecko, but you get the idea.

    One more for your reading list:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/29405701/C...osition-Sensor

    Looks like vector control is one up from resonance damping.
    Last edited by Jonathan; 20-09-2011 at 12:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Maybe I should have compared with a different Gecko, but you get the idea.
    Yes maybe you should have because I have 3 PM752's sat on a shelf that where taken off my machine and replaced by 203v's and I can tell you again from experience the Gecko's knock the spots offf them in every department. . . . . I wouldn't swop you one of my 203V's for 10 PM752's. . . . But hey if your happy with them that's all that matters.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Yes maybe you should have because I have 3 PM752's sat on a shelf that where taken off my machine and replaced by 203v's and I can tell you again from experience the Gecko's knock the spots offf them in every department. . . . .
    Were you operating the PM752 on 75V, or very close to? If not then it's a pretty meaningless comparison.
    The 203's should be better than the PM752 as the PM752 does not use vector current control. Compare 203's to 2M880N and the latter will be better as Vector control > resonance damping

    Edit: should have checked the 203's rating. They're quite similar, except the price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Were you operating the PM752 on 75V, or very close to?
    Yes and actually on the very transormer and with same size caps I gave to James/Luke.

    Lets just leave it that I Know what I know regards Gecko's V's Pm752's and I'll reserve judgement on the 2m880N untill I've had actual hands on experience. . . Which I'm sure will happen at some point in the not too distant future.?

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