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  1. #1
    Neal they are separate grounds but you don't need 5 core 4 cores is enough. Heres how you wire it to IP-M controller.

    Starting with On/OFF. Take DCM to Pin 25 then FWD to Pin 12 or 13 depending which Output relay you want to use.
    Speed Control: ACM to Pin2 on Analog Output. V1 to Pin1

    It's that easy.

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  3. #2
    Cheers Dean, I'm just looking at this as I'm about to wire mine to the IP-M at last....
    Neil...

    Build log...here

  4. #3
    Thank you for that, Jazz. Yes, indeed, the wiring is that easy, and essentially that's exactly what I was going to do. The difference was that I was going to wire in the REV connection as well, hence the need for four cores. But thinking through what you wrote, I realise that in the four years I've been using it, I have never ever used "reverse" on the spindle, and I can't imagine why I ever would. Drop that, and I can happily use one piece of CY for the lot. Sometimes you can be too close to a problem!

    Thanks again - I'll get that wired and tested later.

  5. #4
    DONT DO THAT.!! . . . It's dangerous to run Collet Spindle in reverse.? Think about it for minute and will become obvious.!!

  6. #5
    Many years ago I made a small T-slot cutter for a special job I was doing. Made a nice job of it, too - even down to the close-fitting threads on the shank to fit my Autolock collet chuck on the mill. I was just about to start the machine when I realised that I had cut the teeth for left-hand cutting, and would need to run the machine in reverse. Not a good idea with a screwed-shank cutter. Between that and the time that a 4-jaw chuck unscrewed itself from my Myford's spindle nose because I had managed to partially stop the motor then restarted it too soon and it ran backwards...

    I was once given a handful of small drills "because I could probably find a use for them". Turned out to be left-hand cutting. Never seen a LH-cut router bit, though - I don't think that I need spindle reverse and I'm not sure why I ever thought of connecting it. "Because it was there", I suppose.

    The wiring is going to be easy. It's decoding the inverter manual crypto-English that might be challenging when it comes to setting the parameters for external control! Still, there are plenty of posts around with guidance for that.
    Last edited by Neale; 20-06-2016 at 10:38 AM.

  7. #6
    Well, that was fun! Couple of minutes to wire from CSMIO to socket on case. Then rather longer to work through the CSMIO manual to get the Mach3 and plugin configuration sorted. Seemed to be about 4 different config screens and tabs to find all the relevant places to configure things while remembering that "output" means something different to Mach3 and CSMIO, and that pin numbers are not necessarily output numbers. All good fun, but now the forward relay comes on when commanded from the screen and a quick check with a meter says that the PWM analogue output voltage is about right for the commanded spindle speed. In fact, with these settings, it looks as M3 or M4 will both actually switch the spindle forwards.

    Now to do the equivalent with the VFD... Good luck, Neil - it's easy when you've done it once

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Neale View Post
    Now to do the equivalent with the VFD... Good luck, Neil - it's easy when you've done it once
    Only 2 param's need changing for external control PD01 & PD02 set both to 1.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Neale View Post
    Well, that was fun! Couple of minutes to wire from CSMIO to socket on case. Then rather longer to work through the CSMIO manual to get the Mach3 and plugin configuration sorted. Seemed to be about 4 different config screens and tabs to find all the relevant places to configure things while remembering that "output" means something different to Mach3 and CSMIO, and that pin numbers are not necessarily output numbers. All good fun, but now the forward relay comes on when commanded from the screen and a quick check with a meter says that the PWM analogue output voltage is about right for the commanded spindle speed. In fact, with these settings, it looks as M3 or M4 will both actually switch the spindle forwards.

    Now to do the equivalent with the VFD... Good luck, Neil - it's easy when you've done it once
    Just wired it up and have given up for the day, got a +10V voltage on the analogue output for the 24,000 the program was asking for but the spindle is sat there doing nothing. I've changed both PD01 and PD02 to 1 in the VFD settings, now you can't turn it on manually so must have changed that correctly!! Wired up as per your post Dean, using 2 seperate cables (didn't have any 4 core left.) My brain's fried for today , I know it's to do with the difference in what CSMIO and Mach call the "outputs" and that I'm not calling it the correct thing in one or more of the screens....so...........start again tomorrow morning.....
    Last edited by njhussey; 28-09-2016 at 04:21 PM.
    Neil...

    Build log...here

  10. #9
    Neil IP_M works slightly odd in that you need to set the Output pin number in mach to the OUTPUT number, in this case 4 or 5 not the actual pin number on Controller ie: 12 or 13.

    So first you need to enable OUTPUT #1 set port 10 and Pin to 4 or Pin5 depending if wired to terminal 12 or 13 on IP-M.
    This operates the Relay Outputs so you'll get on/off with M3/M5

    If your getting voltage then your setup on the analog side.
    Also regards the speed if it takes ages to spin up to full speed then you may need to go into Config plugin and spindle tab then set the Spindle Acceleration/deceleration amount. I just set it to 24000rpm/s.

    There is also Ramp up/down parameter in the VFD which does similair thing which is often set to 20s. So you may need to change both.
    I suggest you set the VFD first to say 3-5s then if still slow to spin up change in the Plugin.
    Last edited by JAZZCNC; 28-09-2016 at 07:58 PM.

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