hi thanks for taking the time to reply to me

this is where i got it from www.salescnc.com

these are the manuals i got with it

http://www.salecnc.com/manuals/laser...ManualV4.1.pdf

http://www.salecnc.com/manuals/laser...trolPannel.pdf

i can get it to scratch the surface of a piece if perspex but thats it - i can up the power and it just burns the plastic, so i am assuming ite the focus

thanks

karl