M542 Driver

[Lee Roberts]

Result!

Nice one let us know how you get on...

.Me

[mocha]

LOL, that looks like my 2280n!

Let me know if you need any pics of it...

If you can find what the component is connected to that should make it fairly obvious...



That's easily done as different drivers put them different ways round - if I recall correctly the 2M880n is the other way round. I've got some pictures of inside a 2m880N, but unfortunately they're mostly out of focus or too dark to see anything useful:

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Just out of interest which mosfets does the 2m542 you have use? The one I looked at has IRF9Z34N

[Swarfing]

Right then have new components arrive today, the circuit will not power up without it and problem now is which way round should it go?

if i was to just bridge it it would be closed circuit. I'm now thinking the diode is part of clamping circuit maybe? if this was the case then the negative side of the diode would need to go to the negative side of circuit?

It does not make sense to just have a diode across the power lines as a protection circuit right? am i missing something here? wish i had a circuit diagram. The board won't clean up enough for me to see the tracks either

[Jonathan]

The board won't clean up enough for me to see the tracks either

Presumably you've tried continuity testing, or using an ohm-meter to check where the tracks connect? Or have the tracks have acted as the fuse?

[Swarfing]

Yes tracks are fine, it is only the mask discolored but i would not want to scrape that away

[Robin Hewitt]

It does not make sense to just have a diode across the power lines as a protection circuit right?

Diodes have anodes and cathodes, the cathode is usually marked by a stripe, volts will flow anode to cathode but not vice versa.

A protection diode usually has it's cathode connected to the positice supply and it's anode connected above where you will break the circuit.

When the circuit breaks the supply to a coil the coil impedance wants to keep the current flowing. If it has nowhere to go the Volts go through the roof, probably exceeding the breakdown point of the transistors.

The diode carries the excess current back to the top of the coil so it can go round and round until the coil resistance eats it up.

Expect the cathode, stripe, to be at the positive supply end of the circuit.

[Swarfing]

Robin your correct, last night i thought what the hell, spend hours pondering and testing or just solder it in. The worse that could happen is it goes pop, well it did so i put another one in the other way round it works a treat :-)


The part number is SMAJ48A-TR from RS for all those lurkers waiting for it

[Jonathan]

Glad you fixed it - one day I'll get round to fixing the two broken M752's I have. Not had chance to look at them but I suspect some of the MOSFETs would need replacing.

Bit off topic but...
They're cutting it fine with the MOSFET ratings - both of our M542s use MOSFETs only rated for 55V absolute maximum. Considering they're driving an inductive load and the manual states they can be used on up to 50V I'm surprised the voltage spikes on switching do not exceed 55V. The M752 (75V) and 2m880N (70V) have a much more realistic safety margin as they both use IRF540 MOSFETs which are rated for 100V. I therefore run my M752 drivers on the rated 75V having also checked with oscilloscope that the voltage spikes do not exceed 100V.

The part number is SMAJ48A-TR from RS for all those lurkers waiting for it

Ahh so it was a transient voltage suppression diode...I don't see why you would need to consider scraping the mask away to test.

When the circuit breaks the supply to a coil the coil impedance wants to keep the current flowing. If it has nowhere to go the Volts go through the roof, probably exceeding the breakdown point of the transistors.

The diode carries the excess current back to the top of the coil so it can go round and round until the coil resistance eats it up.

Yep, except the diode in question is across the supply not the individual MOSFETs in the H-bridges, however the principle is the same. I think the difference here is all the energy is immediately dumped into the junction of the diode, not necessarily going round and round. That diode should protect it against unplugging the power when running, but please don't try it!

[Swarfing]

Thanks for the info Jonathan. Scarping the mask back was only to make it easier to see the tracks underneath. The tracks are all fine.