Ambitious newby

[Swarfing]

BR i can see some issues with your design and position of TDC when firing happens. With everything being at opposing positions you will just end up with a pile of bits as it locks up upon detonation. I would look at a more traditional layout of the crankshaft myself? As for tools a Mill and a lathe is must for what you are doing. Buy the biggest you can get away with on your pocket and space. Allow plenty of time to learn the basics to save hundreds of hours screwing it up. Expect to spend more money on the consumables, hand tools and measuring devices than the machines.

The original question you asked is quite wide so list out:

1. what do you want to achieve (be completely honest)
2. what kit and tools do you already have?
3. what space do you have?
4. do you want buy or build?
5. estimate the time you want to complete your goals (then double it)

If you can come back with some of these answers people here maybe able to answer your questions. High IQ or not please ask the stupid questions or you will not get correct answers.

This hobby is very expensive so spend as much time reading where people have gone wrong before instead of looking at what looks shiny. Read lots and lots, read again and once you have done that go back and read it again.

"Children that run before they walk miss out on the detail they would have seen if they had crawled first" - My mothers words to my kids

Don't be afraid to experiment as long as you expect failure and can afford it. Failing can teach more than paying for training in some cases.

[brsanko]

BR i can see some issues with your design and position of TDC when firing happens. With everything being at opposing positions you will just end up with a pile of bits as it locks up upon detonation. I would look at a more traditional layout of the crankshaft myself.

Now this is the kind of advice I'm looking for. I currently have it set up so that the opposing pistons are basically one unit, so that each pistion assembly has 4 combustion chambers.(see pic) Would it work better if the piston assemblies were a few degrees off? More than a few?

[m_c]

Now this is the kind of advice I'm looking for. I currently have it set up so that the opposing pistons are basically one unit, so that each pistion assembly has 4 combustion chambers.(see pic) Would it work better if the piston assemblies were a few degrees off? More than a few?

You need to consider power delivery. Each time a cyclinder fires, you get a high load followed by a power surge. This causes the crankshaft to deform, so it's got to be suitably designed to handle the peak torque. By having two cylinders firing at the same time, you'll be putting a lot more stress through the crankshaft.
Ideally you want power delivery at equal intervals, which would mean the two crank pins being 90degrees apart, however you'd have to take into consideration the crankshaft balance.

[blackburn mark]

Did you miss the 2 stroke part? There is no suck unless you do something really clever with the exhaust pipe geometry.

expansion chamber forms part of the exaust (the bulbus portion of a typical two stoke exaust) the inertia of the exaust gas (in the bulbus section) keeps its momentum forming somewhat of a vacume behind it drawing in the next charge

clacker valve :) reed valve we used to call them

"injecting at TDC" youll have to look into that one... im assuming that you would get better atomization at lower pressure (during induction or there abouts) at TDC the pressure would be quite high with it being a deisel

I currently have it set up so that the opposing pistons are basically one unit

i think your ok in principle but i would have thought a 45degree rotation on your crank timing so that your firing one charge at a time (higher frequency vibration but less amplitued than firing two charges simultainiously i would think)

crank balancing ..... errrm.... your on your own there :) im not sure if you just balance the crank or you take some of the piston and con-rod mass into consideration

[Robin Hewitt]

expansion chamber forms part of the exaust (the bulbus portion of a typical two stoke exaust) the inertia of the exaust gas (in the bulbus section) keeps its momentum forming somewhat of a vacume behind it drawing in the next charge

Traditionally a 2 stroke has the carburettor on the opposite side to the exhaust. The piston goes up producing a partial vacuum in the crank case, the bottom of the piston clears the inlet port and fuel air is sucked in . The piston descends and moments after the piston clears the exhaust it clears the fuel inlets which usually come up the sides connecting the crank case to the combustion chamber. You would think there would be enough heat to light the new fuel but I suppose the explosive decompression cools it somewhat and the mix doesn't really want to light until the pressure is up again. I'm actually rather surprised 2 strokes work at all, if they never existed and someone here came up with the design I'd probably pooh-pooh it.

I suppose you could use a supercharger to get the push, but you do need a push because the pressure must still be well high when the side inlets open.

Using exhaust to create a vacuum is steam locomotive technology but I'd say it could only ever be a helping hand in a 2 stroke, a bit of fine tuning, something to ease the back pressure, not enough to do the recharge.

In a steam train the exhaust comes up the blast pipe, into the smoke box, past the the ends of the fire tubes and up the funnel. What comes out the top is "steam" followed by smoke. What drives it is the valve gear shutting off the exhaust, the air simply doesn't want to stop so it carries on up the funnel drawing on the firebox. Unfortunately a funnel will only pull efficiently at one speed but the old boys knew that and filled the funnel with different size tubes to compensate.

[blackburn mark]

Traditionally a 2 stroke has the carburettor on the opposite side to the exhaust. The piston goes up producing a partial vacuum in the crank case, the bottom of the piston clears the inlet port and fuel air is sucked in . The piston descends and moments after the piston clears the exhaust it clears the fuel inlets which usually come up the sides connecting the crank case to the combustion chamber. You would think there would be enough heat to light the new fuel but I suppose the explosive decompression cools it somewhat and the mix doesn't really want to light until the pressure is up again. I'm actually rather surprised 2 strokes work at all, if they never existed and someone here came up with the design I'd probably pooh-pooh it.

I suppose you could use a supercharger to get the push, but you do need a push because the pressure must still be well high when the side inlets open.

Using exhaust to create a vacuum is steam locomotive technology but I'd say it could only ever be a helping hand in a 2 stroke, a bit of fine tuning, something to ease the back pressure, not enough to do the recharge.

In a steam train the exhaust comes up the blast pipe, into the smoke box, past the the ends of the fire tubes and up the funnel. What comes out the top is "steam" followed by smoke. What drives it is the valve gear shutting off the exhaust, the air simply doesn't want to stop so it carries on up the funnel drawing on the firebox. Unfortunately a funnel will only pull efficiently at one speed but the old boys knew that and filled the funnel with different size tubes to compensate.

ill buy that :)

[mocha]

yep, model aircraft, hydroplanes, boats... they were and are still used today, mainly found in buses and marine engines and some main battle tanks. The "diesel" part of the model engine refers to the compression ignition rather than the fuel type. The fuel as I recall was nitromethane (or something exotic that now comes with a Health and safety warning if you can still get it!)

The flat fronted buses after the routemasters - the name escapes me, used the same engine design as the Chieftan tank, but that was with two opposed pistons for every cylinder.

[John S]

The flat fronted buses after the routemasters - the name escapes me, used the same engine design as the Chieftan tank, but that was with two opposed pistons for every cylinder.

The Leyland L60 that engine was like an hand grenade looking for a war.

main difference between small diesel two strokes and large is that in the small ones they use crankcase compression and need a fuel oil mix.
The large ones used pressure oiling like a 4 stroke but this precludes crankcase compression hence the supercharger taking over this roll.

[brsanko]

5 1/2 inches, slightly below average, that's why I'm getting into engineering. I'm not trying to brag. just letting people know they don't have to baby talk to me and that I am capable of learning what I am asking about. This is the kind of discussion I was hoping to avoid. It doesn't matter how you approch these forums if you come in all humble and meek people assume you're an idiot and you won't get it anyway. If you want to coment on my tone or attitude go pester people on FB. I want to talk about machine work. If you act humble people get a big head and put you down, if you act confident people get insecure and put you down. I guess all forums are a waste of time and no matter where you go all you get is people trying to prove they are better than you. My God children grow up! I haven't put anyone down I haven't claimed to be smarter than anyone here. everything I have said has been relivant and I still get nothing but pissing contests from people I am asking for advice. If anyone is actually interested in helping me PM me. I can't put up with 40 year old 3rd graders.

[Gunny]

5 1/2 inches, slightly below average, that's why I'm getting into engineering.

Haha :). Is this an existing member on a windup?

Read this book cover to cover, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Model-Engine...1044128&sr=8-1 and then start by buying a lathe. The final chapter in the book covers this.