wilfy, I'd offer to get the steel for you but by the time you've either courriered it to you or come and collected it (5 hr round trip) you could probably buy it for the same price locally. Plus I can buy the odd thing through work but if they see my buying lots of steel then questions will be asked if you can wait until wobbly orders then I can tack it on, but still got the problem of getting it to you....