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28-12-2012 #1
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28-12-2012 #2
I cant help myself so will jump in as well........
Other things to specify will need to be minimum tools required. Materials must be readily available from local suppliers where possible. It may also be worth speaking with the usual suppliers to price up a budget kit of parts ( motors, drivers and ballscrews etc).
for people without access to lager tools like lathes and mills will need workarounds to achieve the same goal???
At the end of the day we have been here before and it did not really go anywhere. for it to work it will need more than anything some dedication and for people to agree to disagree and keep it simple at all times. they can make the fancy bits when they have had the experience of going through a build. Hopefully they will have a machine at the end of it to do it.
There my 2p's worthIf the nagging gets really bad......Get a bigger shed:naughty:
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28-12-2012 #3
2e0poz, glad you jumped in. As has already been said there will be some people on the site who are prepared to carry out some machining.
You are quite right that it would mean some serious dedication by some (probably the usual few who know what they are talking about - lets me out).
As this site has many clever and assertive people some may have to compromise a bit on what may be quite good ideas.
Your comment aboutkeeping it simple is absolutely vital and hopefully if they end up with a good machine - who knows what they could do?
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28-12-2012 #4
Jazz you correct, in the law of Paul "NO MDF shall be of use other than keeping the workshop warm upon fire". Keeping the cost down does not mean to skimp on the right material. All you will end doing is loosing money in the long run.
Choices are Steel or Aluminium.
I did play around with some solid plastic decking, would make a great bed :-)If the nagging gets really bad......Get a bigger shed:naughty:
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28-12-2012 #5
See I already disagree with something Jazz has said lol, welding does up the skill level & the basic tools required unless a welder is to be included in the budget. Don't agree that it's easy at this level, yes for some people learning to weld may have been easy but that doesn't mean that it is for everyone, even the thought that this basic introduction machine needs to be welded is probably enough to put a lot of people off.
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28-12-2012 #6
This goes back to offering alternative methods like angle iron to make brackets with nuts and bolts? Decent saw and a pillar drill are the basic requirements for any build. Master the art of a centre punch and people should be able to build quite an accurate machine.
If you don't have a drill and saw then an allowance £200 would get added to the budget straight away. The reality is if can only build a budget machine right if you have the budget in the first place. problem is with budget builds also comes patience, many people don't want to wait.If the nagging gets really bad......Get a bigger shed:naughty:
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28-12-2012 #7
Spot on 2eOpoz but in answer to Martin the investment of a £60 Arc welder is small compared to the alternatives of using So called easier materials like Alu profile. The extra in bolts, Angled steel and broken drill bits alone will cost nearly £60.
The investment in time learning to weld is not that great and can be achieved in just a few hours. End of the day where only talking small short welds here, not much more than tack welding really and if someone can't learn to weld to that level in half a day then I severely doubt there chances of building any machine that requires precision drilling and patience.?
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28-12-2012 #8
I,m watching this post with great interest, and so far it is interesting. I,m building a machine, with guidance from a member on here (not sure if he wants naming). I,ve made a start to it, with a friend, but due to him being busy and me wanting a wee bit more in my machine, its down to guidance and myself. I now have the arc welder in place, (i,m not a welder), but cant wait to get going with it. I have an engineering background, so this doesnt phase me. I,ve went on the net for tutorials, but i,ve not learned anything new. My machine is being made out of 60x60x3mm steel, and i,ll put up a build, once my workshop is up and running.
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28-12-2012 #9
Well done Alex, I look forward to hearing how you get on with the welding. If we do get a good design sorted, I will buy a welder and try to learn to weld.G.
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28-12-2012 #10
cheers geoffrey, the reason behind it, is that i want to build ONE machine that will stand the test of time. As i say i,ll get my build on line once i get the workshop completed.
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