Stuga routermaster problems computer dont seem to be connected to machine

[JAZZCNC]

It seems to be ms dos based and has a stuga cnc system which is loaded via floppy disk.
However when i am prompted to start machine setup,when i press the start button nothing is happening and the machine doesnt move.

Do you have the software and if yes does it install ok.?

If yes then are there any guards or doors etc left open has these will be interlocked to the control software has a safety precaution.

When you say "prompted to start machine setup" does it actually allow you to set it up completely then not Start or can you not complete the setup.?

Are there any error messages or codes come upon screen.?

This is a custom machine doing NON standard CNC operations, hence the Artic pricing for custom Control software. You may find the only way to sensibly bring this machine back to life is to retro fit it with new control software and then program your own routines for each Job.
It's also very likely that some of Hardware inside the machine is Custom also and that will need replacing with more modern and easily available components.

All this said it shouldn't be to difficult or costly to achieve but it's not something that's exactly simple for someone who's not used to CNC.!

The Hardware side shouldn't be too difficult to retro fit for anyone used to DIY CNC and also the Control software we use for DIYCNC would run the machine. But the G-code programs to actually make the machine move and do kind of things you will require will most likely need coding by hand rather than being able to use Standard Cam software like we use in DIYCNC.
This is why they want BIG money for there custom software to take this hassle away and make simple.

If you are just doing repetitive procedures like cutting locks in same size doors then this won't be too much of a hassle because ounce written they can just be reused and loaded from a libery of standard sizes or procedures etc. But if doing one-off's constantly moving hinge positions or sizes etc then it will become more of a bind without some easier method being devised.

That said it's all possible even at DIY level if your prepared to take the time to learn and make it happen.!!

Tell us more info and lets see what's - what.!!

[aled]

Do you have the software and if yes does it install ok.?

If yes then are there any guards or doors etc left open has these will be interlocked to the control software has a safety precaution.

When you say "prompted to start machine setup" does it actually allow you to set it up completely then not Start or can you not complete the setup.?

Are there any error messages or codes come upon screen.?

This is a custom machine doing NON standard CNC operations, hence the Artic pricing for custom Control software. You may find the only way to sensibly bring this machine back to life is to retro fit it with new control software and then program your own routines for each Job.
It's also very likely that some of Hardware inside the machine is Custom also and that will need replacing with more modern and easily available components.

All this said it shouldn't be to difficult or costly to achieve but it's not something that's exactly simple for someone who's not used to CNC.!

The Hardware side shouldn't be too difficult to retro fit for anyone used to DIY CNC and also the Control software we use for DIYCNC would run the machine. But the G-code programs to actually make the machine move and do kind of things you will require will most likely need coding by hand rather than being able to use Standard Cam software like we use in DIYCNC.
This is why they want BIG money for there custom software to take this hassle away and make simple.

If you are just doing repetitive procedures like cutting locks in same size doors then this won't be too much of a hassle because ounce written they can just be reused and loaded from a libery of standard sizes or procedures etc. But if doing one-off's constantly moving hinge positions or sizes etc then it will become more of a bind without some easier method being devised.

That said it's all possible even at DIY level if your prepared to take the time to learn and make it happen.!!

Tell us more info and lets see what's - what.!!

Hi Jazzcnc
Thanks for your reply.
We think it could be a guard or something which is stoping it from running because as soon as we put the machine on the "reset"button light is luminated which apparently in the instruction book means that there is an emergency stop or something which is stopping it however we cannot find what is causing this.Could you give us an idea what this could be or what could be causing this??
When we put the disk in the operating menu "stuga cnc sytems"comes up but when we try and start setup nothing happens.
Also sometimes when on the menu "MINT ERROR-TIMEOUT" comes up noy sure what that is.
If we can get this on i have a friend who can program it for us as he does cnc work.
I really appreciate your time and knoledge.
Best regards
AL

[JAZZCNC]

We think it could be a guard or something which is stoping it from running because as soon as we put the machine on the "reset"button light is luminated which apparently in the instruction book means that there is an emergency stop or something which is stopping it however we cannot find what is causing this.

This is correct and how it should be.? The reset shouldn't be allowed to happen if there's any fault or safety feature that's activated. IE: limit tripped or Guard open.

If it's wired correctly then even if a wire breaks it will not work and appear like an E-stop has occurred. So really it's just a process of elimination to find if there's either a faulty switch or Broken wire.
It could be something like a faulty Relay or wire fallen out of relay so check all connections inside control box.! . . Make sure to do it with power off.!!

Me I'd start with finding all switches and checking condition and if working with multimeter. If any are suspect then just bridge connections and check if it comes out of Reset.?
Don't just remove the switch has the wiring will most likely be a large loop so any break will show has E-stop condition. It will need connections bridging.

If you can post some pic's of inside the Control box and anything you thin looks relevant then something may just jump out at us.??

One last thought does it use external Air supply for any pneumatic clamps etc.? If so then it could be this and a switch or control is looking for air and again won't allow operation without it.?

The Error code could just be a side affect of the E-stop condition being active too long.? Thou it could also mean it just wants a MINT Cornetto.!!. . . Who knows but Stuga.?? More likely it means Stuga will tell you what it means then Charge you a Mint.!!