Thread: Renovating a Hardinge HLV-H
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16-02-2009 #1
Well one week after I started scraping and brushing the dirt off... I'm still scraping and brushing off dirt! Everytime I remove a badge or cover, there's congealed muck behind it.
I spent an hour Saturday freeing up the spindle lock microswitch mechanism (stops the spindle motor running while the spindle lock is engaged)
I can't make up my mind whether to strip the gearbox, headstock and bed off of the stand for painting. On the one hand it would be the proper way to do it. On the other, it would take an enourmous amount of extra effort for little gain.
As much as I would like to, I'm not trying to get this thing back to pristine condition, that would take more money and time than I have available right now So, the target is a clean, painted lathe in useable condition.
I'm investigating ways to power the various motors ATM Mike's step-up transformer into a 415v VFD looks favourite. The main motor is not easily replaced; it is dual speed 1480/480 rpm and balanced to 0.0003" (peak-peak)!
[Edit] At one point I was conviced there was a casting fault in the rear T slot. The muck was so solid I had to hammer at my T slot scraper to remove the stuff. I ought to report the previous users to the RSPCHLast edited by BillTodd; 23-09-2009 at 07:48 PM.
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17-02-2009 #2
Great progress, Bill! I don't want to deflect you from a careful restoration, but like you, I was leaning toward a glossy repaint job with the lathe all broken down to its molecular level. However, I was anxious to try it out, so I used a spray can of primer that was the same color as the lathe (which had been repainted in a flat light gray color) and just touched up all the really bad looking parts, like the doors, tray, etc. That wuz around 8 years ago....
Speaking of VFDs, I just snagged a nice 2hp Cutler-Hammer 415-480v unit for my vertical bandsaw today on ebay for USD$30. With patience, they are out there.
- Mike
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17-02-2009 #3
Hi, Mike,
I have the 415vac VFD but I'm having trouble locating a (cheap) step-up transformer over here. Most of the 'surplus' stores have disappeared over the last few years (killed off by high business rates I suspect) and heavy item like transformers tend not to be listed on ebay because of the cost of postage. Worst case, I'll buy a new one at ~£100.
That wuz around 8 years ago....
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23-02-2009 #4
Progress is a little slow ATM due to work commitments. I have done some work on the lathe, but none that is even slightly photogenic. I'm just at that 'preparing for paint' stage, the one that seem to take takes forever :(
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25-02-2009 #5
Managed to get a little bit of rubbing down done today.
DA'd most of the loose paint off of the stand and started to fill the worst chips in the headstock.
My brother has loaned me his HVLP spray gun which, he assures me, will work with my limited air supply and not spread too much paint around the inside of the garage.
The stand is galvanised so will need self etching primer - nasty stuff - I don't think I'll try spraying it on.Last edited by BillTodd; 26-02-2009 at 01:05 PM.
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26-02-2009 #6
Looking good mate, hope you had a mask on while you sanded that down. Got an order waiting for you, cant have the machine operator faling sick on us at this stage in the game
.Me
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27-02-2009 #7
Rollered a coat of self-etch primer onto the stand. While that was drying I popped down to Gramic's to sort out some grey primer, thinners and top coat.
When I arrived back, I gave the stand a coat of grey primer, again with a roller.
I then spent a hour and half trying to get any paint at all out of the HVLP spray gun - it was just spitting it out -, before I realised the filter was clogged !!! (hey, I've not used one before and there are a million combinations of the knobs to try before the 'obvious' strikes)
But, I Finally managed to coat the the head in a initial layer of primer.
I now know that a) most of the little knicks and scratches will disappear under the paint b) I've completely missed rubbing down several places, and c) I've enough air to spray it - If I can get to grips with that ******ing HVLP gun.
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28-02-2009 #8
Between visitors (why does everyone turn up while you're in the middle of painting?), I managed to roller on a layer of self-etch and grey primer onto the main tray today. It looks so much better painted :)
This evening I cleaned and rebuilt the compound slide - compare before and after :)
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28-02-2009 #9
WOW, this is coming along very nicly mate, i did look at your other post and wonder if you would be doing the tray as well. Makes sense while your there huh.
Is that really the same unit (compound slide) ? what did you use to get it up so well it looks so much better.
awaiting the next events.....Me
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28-02-2009 #10
Thanks Lee :)
i did look at your other post and wonder if you would be doing the tray as well. Makes sense while your there huh.
Is that really the same unit (compound slide) ? what did you use to get it up so well it looks so much better.
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