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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivetide View Post
    I don’t think I have the skill to make a plate,
    No skill involved really and you won't believe how simple it is.!! Takes 10mins if that and in it's simplest form will cost no money. . . . I'll guide you thru it.

    Just use a nice flat piece of aluminium or copper and fasten or solder piece of wire to it then take this wire to (+) of a spare input on your break out board. . . .That's it for the Plate.!!

    If your machine has MDF or wood Bed then the plate won't need Isolating on one side but if your bed is Metal or ALi and you plan on cutting Metals then you'll need to Isolate the side that comes into contact with material, just use insulation tape.! ( Or instead of using Ali plate use Single sided PCB board)

    Then go to Mach's Config/ports&pins/Input signals and set the Probe Input to the pin# used on BOB.

    Now need to check plate is working correctly.? So go to "Diagnostics" tab and on the right you'll see lots of LED's where it says "Input signals current state".
    The one called "Digitize" is the probe Input and it should be OFF. . . If it's on and the plate isn't touching ground or any metal part of the machine then go back into Ports&pins/Input signals and toggle Active Low setting. The Digitize LED should now be OFF.?
    Now to check plate is working touch it to the tool and the Digitize LED should light up, touch it on/off few times to confirm. If it doesn't come on when you touch plate to tool then your spindle my be isolating the tool from Machine ground.? To get round this take another wire from ground (-) on the BOB and put a crocodile clip on end which you then clip to tool while Probing. Often this isn't needed and the tool grounds thru spindle ok.

    Ok that gives you a working probe plate but now Mach needs telling what to do with it.?

    This means we either have to assign some code to the "Auto tool Zero" button on the Standard screen set or use another screen set Like 2010.

    I'll presume your using the Mach's standard 1024 screen set and will give code and instructions for that. This will only be the simple probe for setting Z height for when changing tools and will still require there be material left on top of part for the touch plate. (unless you work in the positive like I said in other post, then just put plate on bed.!)
    If you want the more advanced setup where it uses a mixture of movable and fixed plates to set tool height offsets then you'll be better off buying Gerry's 2010 screen has it's getting more advanced and beyond explaining how to do in this thread.! . . . .I'd buy it anyway has it's other probes routines alone are worth it, not to mention much bigger tool-path screen.!

    OK here goes.!!. . . . .First open the attached file and copy all the code in it. ( Where going to paste it some where else.!)

    Then in Mach goto "OPERATOR" menu across top and choose "EDIT BUTTON SCRIPT". Now on the screen you'll see some flashing buttons, Click the "AUTO TOOL ZERO" button.
    It will open the script editor and the page will be blank or have some simple message like this is empty.? Delete what's there and Paste the copied code into the editor.

    Now this next bit is VERY VERY IMPORTANT !!!!! Else it won't work correctly.

    Accurately Measure the Plate thickness. . . . Then in the code about 18 lines down you'll see line reading " PlateOffset = 0 ' Enter Plate thickness here "
    Change this value to the measured plate thickness. If you don't do this then you'll get an error message saying "(Plate Thickness < 0 - Please Correct and try again)"

    This has deliberately been set zero by me so you can't damage the machine by not entering the plate thickness. Normaly we have a place on the screen to enter this Value for ease of changing or using different plates which we then read in the script. This needs the changes to the screen set and obviously I can't do that without sending the whole screen set.
    In reality you'll rarely change the plate thickness so it's no big deal and other than for ease of use it works just the same. If you want to change plate thickness then just change the script like above.

    Below the " Plateoffset " is the Height the Z axis will retract after probing is finished " Zclear " you can change this value if you like.? I've set it to 20.0mm.
    Again this would normally have it's own place on screen to enter and same applies.

    When finished make sure to SAVE before closing editor.!!

    That's it now you should have a working touch plate.

    IMPORTANT !!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!! IMPORTANT.!!!

    Test the probe LED lights BEFORE YOU USE IT.!!
    For the first TRY test it in the air not onto hard surface and keep your hand close to E-stop. Placing plate on a Sponge works well for testing and gives you time to hit E-stop if doesn't work.

    Here's what happens.? . . . Probes in 2 stages: 1st probe is a fast initial probe at 250mm/min then retracts 3mm and probes again at 25mm/min it then retracts to 20mm above part and sets the Z axis DRO. . . . That's it now your Z axis height is set quick has that.

    Now Disclaimer: Use completely at your own risk.!!
    This code is a modified version of known good code and the same code I use and thousands of others but it has been changed for your needs and I've only tested it in simulation mode not on actual machine. Don't imagine you'll have any problems thou so don't be afraid.

    If you have any problems let me know.!! . . . .Happy probing.
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    Last edited by JAZZCNC; 20-02-2013 at 09:33 PM.

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    [QUOTE=JAZZCNC;42688]No skill involved really and you won't believe how simple it is.!! Takes 10mins if that and in it's simplest form will cost no money. . . . I'll guide you thru it.


    Jazz is spot on, simple to make ( even I managed it! ), I use it all the time, makes using 2 or more bits on one job a doddle.

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    Fuck me ! Jazz thats awesome mate .. the only problem is I use NCstudio, as it came with the CNC and the board |:( But ill do some research see if I can replicate what you have said with it .. watch this space .. thanks again mate :)
    Last edited by Fivetide; 20-02-2013 at 11:18 PM.

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  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Fivetide View Post
    Fuck me ! Jazz thats awesome mate .. the only problem is I use NCstudio, as it came with the CNC and the board |:( But ill do some research see if I can replicate what you have said with it .. watch this space .. thanks again mate :)
    Ah I see no worries sure it will help others.? . . . . Anyway you'll want it later when you realise how shite NCstudio is and Ripout the NCcard for a PP BOB to use Mach. .

  6. #5
    Priceless!
    If the nagging gets really bad......Get a bigger shed:naughty:

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by 2e0poz View Post
    Priceless!
    What's tickled your Tit's.?

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    Tiz shit agreed.. next time I will know though lol ! And i'd like a bit of tit tickling plz !

    It’s like that scene with the cancer patient in Flight film.. “Do I think god gave me cancer? No, do you think he would have given it me if I‘d have asked him to? No. Now I have it do you think he will take it away? No. Course I believe in God.. !!
    Last edited by Fivetide; 21-02-2013 at 01:16 AM.

    Fiction is far more plausible when wrapped around a thread of truth

    Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
    Ralph Waldo Emerson


  9. #8
    As for a tool height setting probe, you could always make one like mine - http://www.mycncuk.com/forums/tool-t...-solution.html

    (Yes, I am still alive..!)

  10. #9
    Sorry Jazz i was reading the thread all serious how you was helping out then it was like someone popped your balloon. Can i buy you a new one to say sorry????

    I will admit i am feeling guilty but it was funny......... I went into factors a couple of months ago to get some bits for my car. I asked for some parts for a nissan praire. The guy disappears for about ten minutes and returns with a shed load of bits. He says to me " i knew i had a bunch of stuff hanging around, you can have this lot for nothing as i will never sell it". I had to disappoint him and say i drive a nissan largo. He looked all puzzled to which i replied that if i had said they were for a largo he would not have known what the hell i was talking about. He was quite pissed that he wasted all that time digging the stuff out. I id get the bits i needed though.
    If the nagging gets really bad......Get a bigger shed:naughty:

  11. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by 2e0poz View Post
    Sorry Jazz i was reading the thread all serious how you was helping out then it was like someone popped your balloon. Can i buy you a new one to say sorry???
    No worries.!! It took 10mins from my day so no big deal and like I say sure others will benefit.
    Must admit I didn't think to ask, mainly because thought I'd seen in another thread Fivetide used Mach.? Obviously mistaken Identity.!!

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