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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburn mark View Post
    if you have access to a sand/shot blaster you could do both sides of a clear acrylic sheet to stop the glare on the outer face?
    You only need to do the outside surface, not the internal one that the leds are on or you are just reflecting light back towards the led instead of into the acrylic and out the other side, using a fine grade paper on an orbital sander works a treat.

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    This is the smaller display I've been using for testing -

    110_MatrixDisplay by mc_mtb, on Flickr

    As you can see, when it's dark it's nice and clear, however during daylight you can't really see the lit LEDs.
    Here's the display in daylight, with what we bodged over it to make it visible (it's not powered up, as I'm not sure where I've put the controller for it at this present moment - I tidied up last week!)

    LED Matrix by mc_mtb, on Flickr

    Vinyl may work, and I know where I can get plenty offcuts. Not sure why I never thought of that.

    However I've discovered the plasticshop do samples, so I've ordered some of their frosted samples in dark shades (midnight black, slate and stone grey), as it should give me the finish I'd ultimately like to acheive.

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    If you know where you can get lots of vinyl off cuts then ask them if they have any translucent off cuts or even frosted you can try. Translucent is what is used for lightboxes so allows more light through & frosted is available in different colours & will also allow more light through. Both have a matt finish which will help with the glare.
    Don't know if these get moved about a lot but if you go down the sheet material route then polycarbonate might be a better option than acrylic, acrylic tends to be a bit brittle but make sure it is an exterior grade. Exterior grade is UV stabalised which stops it yellowing over time.

    Another option if you are still experimenting & still have units to manufacture is to change the colour of the LEDs so they show up better during daylight hours.
    Last edited by martin54; 23-03-2013 at 03:15 PM.

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    This will only be getting used a few times a year, and will spend most of it's life wrapped up in a shed, so I'm not too bothered about UV stability. The ability to not fail in rain is far higher on the priority list!
    It's going to be built into a box, so I'll make a cover to protect the front during transportation.

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    What are you going to use for manufacturing the box? Something like aluminium composite would probably work quite well, it's light & pretty hard wearing & you can fold it into a box shape fairly easily by routing a "V" grove to fold along. would reduce the number of joins you would have to worry about sealing.

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    Not got that far yet!

    Main panel that holds everything will most likely be aluminium, which will then have the perspex mounted closely in front of it. Then all that needs a box around it. I might just go for something like ply for simplicity, then give it a good prime, and paint.
    I've got somebody who could do the woodwork for me, which saves me time. If I go metal I'd have to do it myself.

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    Maybe the acrylic diffuser panels they use for the light units in paneled ceilings maybe a better bet?
    If the nagging gets really bad......Get a bigger shed:naughty:

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    Composite board has a thin aluminium skin with a plastic centre. OK it's a lot more expensive than say far eastern ply but the whole thing would be lighter & easier to move about, it's already powder coated so no need to paint & comes in about 6 different colours plus it's pretty easy to cut so your woodworking guy could still manufacture it for you. Normal woodworking tools will be ok as long as any saws are fine toothed, for small jobs I use one of those throw away laminate saws that joiners use & the V groove I do with a normal hand help router.
    Not the cheapest way to do it but would look good & last for years.

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