Agreed m_c, but the seller does offer cash on collection (he could of course be waiting to mug someone with a pocketful of cash). Perhaps it would be possible to find local members to check out some of these offers if they seem a bit suspicious. With regards to the VISION machine I "won" on ebay, ebay have sent me a message saying that the site has now been returned to its rightful owner. What amazes me is that whilst this is FRAUD (attempting to obtain money by deception), nobody seems to be very interested. G.