hey guys Thanks for your replies, but this is what i mean, new screen sets, scripts and routines... I just cannot get my head around why a basic routine isnt built in that can be edited by people who want more, after all the buttons are there so the designers know its needed, i just dont understand why i have to put on other screen sets some of which cost money to take advantage of a feature that should be there in the first place... vexes me that does...

Rick

and i still dont understand what is to be done to give this functionality, or is this step 'H' in in a learning curve starting at 'A'

Grrrrrrrrr