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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    I'd go for a timing belt drive for three reasons:
    • It's not unlikely that we might find the ratio needs changing and to change the ratio you only need to change one pulley compared to two gears.
    • The torque ripple will also be less with a belt, unless maybe someone wants to have a go at making helical gears!
    • Noise.
    1. I suppose its possible it might need changing, but a 3:1 ratio means 180rpm on the rotor and thats more than enough, can even use smaller/fewer magnets as torque requirement reduced by same ratio.
    2. Not sure what you mean by torque ripple in this context, its an artifact of a motor due to bad pole design aka cogging...
    3. Maybe, but plastic gears shouldn't be that noisy at these low speeds...

    Epicyclic is elegant solution to problem. Belt drive would need to find a way to route belt past magnetic pole piece each end of magnet carrier, or carrier would need to be vertical or at least at an angle making use of the U-channel mounting more difficult and making the mounting of the loadcell more complex. Also belt drive might increase the footprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irving2008 View Post
    1. I suppose its possible it might need changing, but a 3:1 ratio means 180rpm on the rotor and thats more than enough, can even use smaller/fewer magnets as torque requirement reduced by same ratio.
    2. Not sure what you mean by torque ripple in this context, its an artifact of a motor due to bad pole design aka cogging...
    3. Maybe, but plastic gears shouldn't be that noisy at these low speeds...

    Epicyclic is elegant solution to problem. Belt drive would need to find a way to route belt past magnetic pole piece each end of magnet carrier, or carrier would need to be vertical or at least at an angle making use of the U-channel mounting more difficult and making the mounting of the loadcell more complex. Also belt drive might increase the footprint.
    1. It depends how well we need to control the torque, i.e. the resolution. It the ratio is wrong, so the magnets are never operated near saturation, then you've reduced the available range in which to control them. I guess the ratio would have to be a long way off for it to be significant in this application...
    2. I wouldn't say it's due to bad design, more that it's a side effect of optimising a motor design for certain characteristics. In this context I meant simply that the handles will not feel as smooth to turn - there will be vibrations at frequencies dependent on the number of teeth on the gears.
    3. True, I'd forgotten it was so low.

    One of these would be fun to watch:
    Old router build log here. New router build log here. Lathe build log here.
    Electric motorbike project here.

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