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    Well must say That's an ambitious first machine.?

    Here's what I can add with experience of my machine being vertical.!!

    The bottom of the gantry(Were turquoise plate is) will fill with chips if the end is closed so make it open. Also Chips will also collect on the rails so think about some form of shielding to deflect them or build in wipers.

    If possible then I'd try to raise it further off the ground and tilt 15deg or so to aid work holding. Being so low it's a pain fastening material lower down also when you need to access material for say flicking small offcuts out the way etc.

    With the Gantry raising and lowering in place of a typical Z axis then I'd connect the screws with timing belt rather than using twin motors, you'll keep screw sync much better. This setup will give good strength but will be so much harder to setup regards tramming the spindle. If there's any and by that I mean even the slightest 0.001mm difference in sync between screws you'll get steps when surfacing material.
    For this reason I wouldn't use slaved steppers and tie together with belts or use Servo's with encoders and program drives with tiny error values.

    Other than these things then it looks Ok but must say again it's very ambitious for a first machine.!!

    Oh and why are those screws on the bed so far out.?

  2. #2
    You say you are crappy with welding and here i see a truck trailer

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by silyavski View Post
    You say you are crappy with welding and here i see a truck trailer
    LOL. yes I think the phrase is "sucker for punishment"

    Hopefully i'll be a slightly less crappy welder at the end !

    Cheers
    Greeny

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Well must say That's an ambitious first machine.?
    Yes, it has kind of got out of control!
    Should be fun though, until it starts going pear shaped.

    Thanks for the advice on chip protection/clearing and raising/tilting.I hadn't really given either a great deal of thought.
    Will ponder more on those.

    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    With the Gantry raising and lowering in place of a typical Z axis then I'd connect the screws with timing belt rather than using twin motors, you'll keep screw sync much better.
    I am definitely thinking about one motor for both screws. It seems both the simplest and best way of syncing the screws.
    The gap between the screws is ~1770mm. Is this something to worry about with belts?
    Is it possible/feasable to have a central motor driving two pulley wheels (one for each screw) so each belt is half the length.(each belt would need a tensioner)
    quick & dirty sketchup
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Oh and why are those screws on the bed so far out.?
    They are slapped on there as i'm unsure about pulley system & the layout for pulley wheels.
    There is quite a bit of wiggle room so i should be able to finalise their position soon.

    Thanks for the comments an advice
    Cheers
    Greeny

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    Oh before I forget your not from Yorkshire are you.? My best mate at school was called Paul Green but he moved away.!

    Quote Originally Posted by Greeny View Post
    I am definitely thinking about one motor for both screws. It seems both the simplest and best way of syncing the screws.
    The gap between the screws is ~1770mm. Is this something to worry about with belts?
    No except you'll have to have it made for you, it won't be something you find on the shelf. Most decent bearing/belt suppliers will get you one made. If at the time you have trouble drop me an email and I'll put you intouch with someone who will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greeny View Post
    Is it possible/feasable to have a central motor driving two pulley wheels (one for each screw) so each belt is half the length.(each belt would need a tensioner)
    quick & dirty sketchup
    Yes and infact my first effort with belts was done something like that but in a V shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Oh before I forget your not from Yorkshire are you.? My best mate at school was called Paul Green but he moved away.!
    Strangely I am!
    But Whitby in North Yorkshire. I've never moved, so we must be different people. (I will update me profile)


    Regarding the belts, that's exactly what i meant. Cheers.
    Which would you recommend?
    Single long belt, or two shorter ones as per your picture.
    Or is it 6 of one & half dozen of the other?

    Cheers
    Greeny
    Last edited by Greeny; 18-08-2013 at 09:59 PM. Reason: pressed post instead of preview. Doh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greeny View Post
    Strangely I am!
    But Whitby in North Yorkshire. I've never moved, so we must be different people. (I will update me profile)
    Ah was just up road few a weeks ago at friends in RHB.


    Quote Originally Posted by Greeny View Post
    Regarding the belts, that's exactly what i meant. Cheers.
    Which would you recommend?
    Single long belt, or two shorter ones as per your picture.
    Or is it 6 of one & half dozen of the other?
    Well seen has I went with the long version I'd have to say that but really there's nothing in it and I only went with long because it was easier to make covers (Which never got made) . . .Oh there's a tip for you DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT turning machine on until you have finished all you planned to do, you'll never do another thing to it again for least 5yrs if you don't.!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Ah was just up road few a weeks ago at friends in RHB.!
    A gem of the NE coast. Was in Dolphin for a pint or two just last week!

    Thanks for the info on belts, and the warning about finishing before firing up. That definitely applies to me!

    I have been thinking about the advice given so far and am now thinking about toning in down a bit.
    Here is a new draft, with quite a smaller footprint, that is simpler, and should be a lot easier to build. As well as cheaper for Rails/Screws etc. which i still have to buy.
    Have added M20 ball feet so i can adjust the lean angle.

    Cheers
    Greeny

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