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22-09-2013 #1
Hi all
Found this machine on ebay, what would your opinions be, It looks like a chinese import.
CNC Router 3kw Spindle 1200* x 1300* x 200 Work Area- Complete! Vacuum Bed! | eBay
The only strange thing is there are 2 machines for sale with identical descriptions but different pics.
Alan
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22-09-2013 #2
Different sizes
John S -
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22-09-2013 #3
I was looking at this a while back. Either the guy makes them or something is putting the punters off. Mind you I have not read the description. But same old pics as when I looked also.
Personal I like it. If I had the cash I would defiantly think about it.
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22-09-2013 #4
These are a standard Chinese design. You can import them cheaper.
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22-09-2013 #5
Now that, I would be interested in! Don't suppose you know where?
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22-09-2013 #6
Plenty on AliExpress.com - Online Shopping for Electronics, Fashion, Home & Garden, Toys & Sports, Automobiles from China.
Probably best to ask on CNC zone if you're interested in getting one as there seems to be a lot of people there discussing them.
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22-09-2013 #7
As said above, that type of machine is readily available direct from China. Depending on spec, they start at around £1500. The one you link to on eBay is around the £2500 mark. I guess the seller has been a bit too greedy and could probably sell these like hot cakes at a more realistic £3000 - £3500.
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22-09-2013 #8
With a machine this size, the shipping will be to a sea port (Felixstowe normally). You have to pay duty, VAT and freight forwarder fees.
I've considered this before as I live close to the port and have family in the transport business.
As birchy says, people would pay £3500 for one in the UK. Fine for wood work.
I love seeing the "factory" pictures on AliExpress.
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22-09-2013 #9
I have been getting some quotes for the chinese machines and have so far got the following info. all show vac table as extra.
Exitech 1212 2,2kw spindle 1220 x 1220 ........$5300
Omni 1212 2.2kw spindle 1200 x 1200 Rack and pinion $5150
Omni 1212 2.2kw spindle 1200 x 1200 Ballscrew $3950
( I thought ballscrew was generally more expensive than R&P?)
Jinang King Rabbit 3kw spindle, 1300 x 2500 $4500
Vacuum tables vary in price from $500 to $1,990 depending on manufacturer and type.
On top of this price you would have to add the following.
shipping to nearest port (anything from $300 to $1700)
transport from port to workshop probably $400 to $500
Import duties depending on country
Demmurage charges and customs clearance.
And VAT on top of everything
So going for the cheapest option
$3950 router
$500 vac table
$300 shipping
$400 transport from port of delivery
Sub total $5150
Import duty (depends on taric listing, still trying to find out) but lets guess at 20%
$1030
+23% vat on top of all of this $1421 dollars
Grand total $7601
That's approx £4,745 sterling and 5,621 Euro
So the price on ebay doesnt look that bad.
Alan
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23-09-2013 #10
Sure they would sell at 3 grand like hotcakes but he wouldn`t even cover his costs.
Even 2.5K is 3K with just the VAT added, but there is quite a few more incidentals than that to cover, too big to air freight and sea shipping becomes a whole different ball game, been talked about here before
http://www.mycncuk.com/forums/market...rapped-me.html
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