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  1. #1
    Assuming the OP still wants -10 to +10.
    With the method proposed previously by Jonathan there exists a problem, if the reference wire to the servo driver goes open circuit, the drive would go to full speed reverse.
    Would it be possible to use a standard spindle board with 2 relays such that the output would always be 0-10v but one relay would reverse the polarity of the 0-10v output ? opto isolators would need to be used to prevent grounding issues. Within Mach3 the user would use S for speed and M3,M4 for direction.
    In additiaon a Mach3 Brain could be used to read the Spindle Speed DRO and only operate the direction relay outputs if the speed was above a particular figure, this would give a deadband around the zero position.
    Then the logic could also include a test to see if the requested speed (via S command within Mach3) was odd or even, if it was even this would indicate forward, if odd it would indicate reverse.
    The speed would then be programmed in Mach3 such that a value ending with zero would be forward and ending in 1 would be reverse i.e. S1000 would be 1000rpm forward, S1001 would be 1000(almost)rpm reverse. The Mach3 Brain would operate the polarity switching relays automatically. It's clear that the code could move from full forward to full reverse e.g. S10000, S10001 implying that an integrator be used but this is normally a function of the VFD or Servo Driver that employ ramps.
    Last edited by EddyCurrent; 14-01-2014 at 10:57 AM.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by EddyCurrent View Post
    Assuming the OP still wants -10 to +10.
    With the method proposed previously by Jonathan there exists a problem, if the reference wire to the servo driver goes open circuit, the drive would go to full speed reverse.
    My intention was to expand on the circuit design when if it turned out to be necessary. There's a much easier way to solve that problem, but I don't think it's worth discussing the circuit here.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    My intention was to expand on the circuit design when if it turned out to be necessary. There's a much easier way to solve that problem, but I don't think it's worth discussing the circuit here.
    Agreed, and I don't think OP wants to use analogue mode anyway as AFAIK Mach3 doesn't support open-loop servo & encoder feedback for positioning.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    My intention was to expand on the circuit design when if it turned out to be necessary. There's a much easier way to solve that problem, but I don't think it's worth discussing the circuit here.
    Oh yes there is, what's the point of keeping it a secret ? I want to hear about it.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by EddyCurrent View Post
    Within Mach3 the user would use S for speed and M3,M4 for direction.
    In additiaon a Mach3 Brain could be used to read the Spindle Speed DRO and only operate the direction relay outputs if the speed was above a particular figure, this would give a deadband around the zero position.
    Then how do you start the Spindle or control it's speed thru G-code.?. . . . There will be better ways but I'm not wasting brain cells thinking about it because the guy has Servo drives that take Step/Dir so why make life hard.?

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Then how do you start the Spindle or control it's speed thru G-code.?. . . .
    Don't be silly now, you know how to do that. Also this thread is going off the rails due to lack of info from the OP, he's either controlling a servo driver or a VFD. The VFD is straight forward, use a spindle board from Mach3, the servo driver, who knows until more info is given ?
    Anyway I'm only looking at novel ways to derive a -10v to +10v output but nobody wants to play about with it or forward their own ideas.
    It's one of those days when I'm thinking, why bother ?
    Last edited by EddyCurrent; 14-01-2014 at 06:13 PM.

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