RFQ Response Etiquette, (The Man In A Shed) vs (The Commercial Operator)

**JAZZCNC** · 29-01-2014

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Only if I earn greater than whatever the threshold is, and I'm nowhere near that.

Yep But it's still an offense to not declare it so you might want to consider that when your publicly posting your charging people.!!

**alex wight** · 29-01-2014

I've registered my small business with the tax office. My guidelines are that I can earn £8600.00 profit before tax gets taken. Even if you don't reach that it doesn't matter, you must declare it. If you don't there's heavy fines given out, and even custodial sentences. Worth thinking about Jonathan.

Regards
Alex

**Jonathan** · 29-01-2014

Thanks for informing me - I'll look into it.

**blackburn mark** · 30-01-2014

It’s all getting a bit serious on here wtf?
This used to be a site where a helpful soul could earn a quid or two by doing a "favor" for a fellow geek.
Are we now having to stomach veiled threats fueled by sour grapes?

There is an hysteresis loop twixt “hobby” and “business"... if you "business men" wish to do "business" on a hobby site you are just going to have to face the raw fact that you are attempting to compete with people that you simply cannot compete with.... just as it should be.

**alex wight** · 30-01-2014

Originally Posted by blackburn mark

It’s all getting a bit serious on here wtf?
This used to be a sight where a helpful soul could earn a quid or two by doing a "favor" for a fellow geek.
Are we now having to stomach veiled threats fueled by sour grapes?

There is an hysteresis loop twixt “hobby” and “business"... if you "business men" wish to do "business" on a hobby site you are just going to have to face the raw fact that you are attempting to compete with people that you simply cannot compete with.... just as it should be.

Just to clarify my position on this. I,m not running a business that incorporates a cnc machine, i do wood crafts. I pointed out what i had to do to keep me legal and also to stop back stabbers or jealous people screwing it all up for me. Giving people advice on this, is a good thing, to keep them on the correct road. Should there be a malicious person out there that wants to ruin it for the "favour" guys, then as long as your doing everything by the book you have nothing to worry about. Hope that clears things up from my point of view.

regards alex.

**JAZZCNC** · 30-01-2014

Originally Posted by blackburn mark

Are we now having to stomach veiled threats fueled by sour grapes?

If that was aimed at me mark, which I think it was, then I'm dissapointed because it should be clear by now I don't do Veil anything.!!. . . . If I don't like something or someone then I'll tell you point blank to your face and not with snide remarks.!! Also if I had any intent to cause malis to anyone then I'm not stupid enough to warn them.!

Regards the sour grapes then you and others may like to know I actually have similair feeling towards Jonathan has I do my teenage son.? . . . Apart from loving my son which I clearly don't Jonathan then I have great respect and admiration for him but at same time when the arrogance and Know-it-all I-know-better attitude comes out I want to punch him in the face.! . . Lol

In this case I just wanted to warn him (and others) to shut the F@~£ up before some spineless Runt does Inform on him. . . .Oh and after that post I sent him a PM explaining more about why I said that.!!

Now crack on making pocket money which I don't have any issue with at all.

**blackburn mark** · 30-01-2014

Originally Posted by JAZZCNC

If that was aimed at me mark, which I think it was

You are entitled to consider my objections to be aimed at you if that is what blows your hair back Jazz but in the interest of science and curiosity... what exactly is it that drives you to see my objection as being levelled at you?

It wasn't levelled at you per-say... it was levelled at any "holier than thou" saints who would put stock in moral legitimacy claims on a hobby/favour/slack hand full of dollars under the tax radar for a bit of machining deal.

I may have the wrong end of the stick here but getting your knickers in a twist over my post leads me to suspect that there was indeed some spite in your words of advice to Jonathan.
If I am mistaken... one thousand apologies from me with love to you xxx
If I'm not mistaken... what can I say to make you feel better?

**Doddy** · 30-01-2014

As in post #3 and #5, the job has been accepted by another party. I thank all for offering perfectly valid quotes, from both hobbyist and professional perspectives. For now, though, this thread has been answered.

**blackburn mark** · 30-01-2014

Originally Posted by Doddy

As in post #3 and #5, the job has been accepted by another party. I thank all for offering perfectly valid quotes, from both hobbyist and professional perspectives. For now, though, this thread has been answered.

With all due respect my good man, you may have filled your boots... good for you :)
There are other members who may wish to feel free to do "hobby" business and I would like to cast my vote on the larger issue.

**EddyCurrent** · 30-01-2014

There's an up side to it also. If you register as a 'Sole Trader' for example and submit your annual tax form, then if your outgoings are greater than your income you may be eligible for a tax refund. This is a great help if you are starting a business where you need initial outlay for machinery etc.