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    I'll answer here but Mekanik is correct best start your own thread if you want to continue or contact me via PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by cjohnh View Post
    I am concerned that the level of software problems that people encounter are going to stop me working effectively. What I want is to take the machine out of the box, spend some time learning the Vectric software, turn it on and and produce objects of a good enough standard to sell. Is this realistic ? I don't want to spend frustrating hours delving deep into G-code to correct errors every time I switch the Heiz on.
    Any constructive criticism or ideas/reactions out there ? Thanks.
    First yes it's possible but you have to realise there is a learning curve.! After all you didn't just pickup a router and instantly produce quality signs so why would you expect to do the same with a complicated machine tool.?
    There is a significant learning curve regards software just like becoming compitent using photoshop and the more you use it the better the results and shorter the time required to achive great results.
    Regards having to delve into G-code then with decent CAM package you won't need to touch any G-code.
    Regards Machine control whether that be the Heiz or any other machine then it's relatively simple affair which boils down to setting up Stock, locating Zero work coordinates for each axis then loading the G-code file and pressing cycle start.

    If you do have any frustrations it will mostly certainly come from the CAD/CAM side and reproducing what you have in your minds eye.!! . . . How frustrating will greatly depend on the complexity of what you want to make and your abilty to come to grips with the software.
    Everyone learns at differant levels but I will say in my experience with helping new first time users that unless doing complex 3D models then in the main most new users get to grips with software quickly enough and after few weeks playing they are producing some very nice work. They never have problems with the G-code file or having to delv into editing the file, it's always the CAM side and selecting the correct or best cutting stratergy to achive the results they are happy with and unfortunatly this comes with experience and how deep your pockets are regards buying decent CAM software that give you the tools to get the best job.!

    I won't get into the Heiz machine it's self other than to say It's too expensive for what you get.? Unsupported round rails is not what I would want if I was paying nearly 3K.!!

    Quote Originally Posted by cjohnh View Post
    By the way - Owen and Robin - north of London is not necessarily "oop North". In fact, it is mostly "darn sarf". If you want "oop North" try going to Hartlepool - that's really scary !
    I'll take hartlepool and straight talking gordies over southern bull shit jessie's any day.! . . . . Try Grimethorpe where I come from if you want scary.!
    Last edited by JAZZCNC; 23-05-2014 at 10:47 PM.

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