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    blim's Avatar
    Lives in Trondheim, Norway. Last Activity: 04-06-2022 Has been a member for 8-9 years. Has a total post count of 5.
    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Yes my machine is driven like this and it's actually using the Csmio-ip-M at the moment.
    I've had all the motion control cards on it at one point or another and none of them can match the Csmio-IP-M. It's much smoother and actually increased max feedrates with no change other than the controller and plugin.
    I was very surprised to be honest just how much better it performed to the others and that's dispite it having a much lower frequency. I mostly put this down to the fact there's less bottle neck from not having an external BOB in between with the signals being much cleaner and more closely controlled.
    I am really struggling to figure out which controller to buy, and whether it should have support for gantry squaring or not. My original plan was to run the machine with grbl controller, which does not support separate limit switches on a dual motor axis. So I used a timing belt over a center mounted motor, but the timing belt teared apart quite fast due to the high load (2 x 10 mm pitch ball screw, 30 kg gantry).

    Can you help me with these two questions?

    1. Which timing belt and pulley size do you use if you run with one big stepper?
    2. I plan on buying AM882 drivers. Would you go with CSMIO-IP-M + belt or PLCM-E3 with slave stepper if you were to build a new machine now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blim View Post
    Can you help me with these two questions?

    1. Which timing belt and pulley size do you use if you run with one big stepper?
    2. I plan on buying AM882 drivers. Would you go with CSMIO-IP-M + belt or PLCM-E3 with slave stepper if you were to build a new machine now?
    Yes no problem. If your tearing belts apart then something was very wrong. 2 ballscrews and 30Kg is nothing for belt drive. I use this method all the time with 2 x 20mm 10mm pitch ballscrews and never have any trouble with belts tearing.

    Q1: 15mm HTD belts are what I use. Pulley size depends on machine but often I use 18 or 20T. Try to keep the pulley size small possible to lower inertia but keep in mind shaft size so don't go too small.!

    Q2: Simple to answer because I've just built two identical machines using the same setup.
    IP-M and with belt drive using 4.5Nm Nema 34 motors turning 20mm dia 10mm pitch screws with 1.25:1 ratio (16T on motor 20T on screws)

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    blim's Avatar
    Lives in Trondheim, Norway. Last Activity: 04-06-2022 Has been a member for 8-9 years. Has a total post count of 5.
    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Yes no problem. If your tearing belts apart then something was very wrong. 2 ballscrews and 30Kg is nothing for belt drive. I use this method all the time with 2 x 20mm 10mm pitch ballscrews and never have any trouble with belts tearing.
    Thank you for your help.
    I used some old XL 10mm pulleys and belt I had from another project, the belt reinforcement teared from the inside. Will buy some HTD5 and give that a try. Do you use pulleys with set screws? If so, do they keep tight over time, the ball screw ends are Ø12, or do you use keyway connection or flatten the shaft where the set screws sit?

    Regarding gantry squaring with dual motor drive - I understand that is a feature controlled from within mach3. Wouldn't it be possible to use mach3 to perform gantry squaring on CSMIO-IP-M also?

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    No, gantry squaring is handled by the motion controller, and the IP-M doesn't support it.

    It tells you that on this page, right below the comparison chart.
    http://www.cs-lab.eu/en/produkt-18,2...onnectors.html
    Gerry
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    blim's Avatar
    Lives in Trondheim, Norway. Last Activity: 04-06-2022 Has been a member for 8-9 years. Has a total post count of 5.
    Ok, thanks. Will go with belt synced dual screws on a single stepper. I use 2 screws Ø20 with 10mm pitch, length 1900. Will use the machine for plywood cutting. Plan is to use AM882 drivers on 70V. Any recommendation on stepper motor that will handle this setup allowing high feeds? Also read somewhere about stepper drivers running from mains power supply, should I consider that? - any examples on these kind of drivers?

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