Looking to outsource some CNC routing in UK

[Ger21]

Do you know anything about the technicalities of CNC routing? How to get the prices down or how to design MDF components so they are quicker to cut?

Without knowing exactly what you're doing, it's difficult to give recommendations. Every job is potentially different, and can present it's own challenges.
The big difference in pricing you may be seeing may just be due to the fact that some people don't know what they're doing, or how much they should be charging (at the low end). The high prioces may hjsut mean they don't want your business. I'd go with the cheapest one, and see how they're quality is. If they don't work out for you, go to the next cheapest.

I've been programming routers in custom cabinet shops for nearly 20 years. If you want to send me your design, I may be able to give you some ideas.

[CNCCabinets]

Hi, thanks for the comments. jimbo_cnc I am base in North East London at the moment. As a lot of manufactures are based out of the city to keep their costs down I don't think that it will really matter where the CNC service provider is based as they will probably use a courier unless it is a huge amount of part you need cut. For pricing I have been sending all the parts off for a fairly standard base unit 600mm wide, a top and bottom, 2 sides, a back, and 2 battens for the back to fix to. The parts also have some holes for fixing through and shelf holes etc so no complex shapes or 3D work. £80 for a carcass seems reasonable, what type of carcass is that and what material? There is the advantage with Timbmet that they are a big supplier of panel products so will have what material you want to use to hand. Can I ask what they are charging you for delivery and the cost of the material? Thanks

[jimbo_cnc]

Hi, thanks for the comments. jimbo_cnc I am base in North East London at the moment. As a lot of manufactures are based out of the city to keep their costs down I don't think that it will really matter where the CNC service provider is based as they will probably use a courier unless it is a huge amount of part you need cut. For pricing I have been sending all the parts off for a fairly standard base unit 600mm wide, a top and bottom, 2 sides, a back, and 2 battens for the back to fix to. The parts also have some holes for fixing through and shelf holes etc so no complex shapes or 3D work. £80 for a carcass seems reasonable, what type of carcass is that and what material? There is the advantage with Timbmet that they are a big supplier of panel products so will have what material you want to use to hand. Can I ask what they are charging you for delivery and the cost of the material? Thanks

Material is pretty cheap and I don't think I'm on trade prices, £53+VAt for the 2800x2070 eurodekor MFC 18mm. I collect it myself so no delivery charge.

[CNCCabinets]

Hi Gerry. Thanks for your reply. I'd be happy to send you a dxf file of the sort of parts that I'd like to have cut, that is very kind of you to offer some advice. I do think that a lot of businesses don't like bothering with small orders from companies that are trying to get up and running so take a punt and put their prices high, it is a shame as everyone has got to start somewhere.

Have you got an email address I can send a dxf file to?

Thanks again.

Phil

[Ger21]

cncwoodworker at comcast dot net

[Sven]

I set up one of my current activities based on outsourcing as many parts as possible, in stainless steel sheet and various plastics.
I also do limited numbers and two to three years in I realised that a small cnc might help me.

In the end it turned out to work better if I tried to make as many parts myself as I could.
I think that if you want to do custom work, having your own cnc is very useful.

If you need to start by outsourcing, which is a good idea, even if doing parts yourself is "better" in the long run, the supplier needs to be flexible too. That probably means that they are focusted on small batches too.

Mixing small batches with very big ones is often hard, unless the business actually focuses on being able to handle both.

Having a local one may be very good. Being able to just pop over to discuss stuff makes stuff much easier.

I think price will come from how much hassle you take out of the job.
If you can send nested cad files or even coded files to the cnc guy that only need cutting, it would be a lot cheaper than sending each individual part file over, adding quantity, thickness.

[Ger21]

If you can send nested cad files or even coded files to the cnc guy that only need cutting, it would be a lot cheaper than sending each individual part file over, adding quantity, thickness.

If I were doing the work, I would not want nested files or machine code. My machine runs the way I want it to run, not the way my customer thinks it should run. If you want to outsource to me, then you have to pay me to program your parts. You'd need a very good working relationship imo to be able to send someone g-code to run for you.

I think that outsourcing is probably much more cost effective with larger jobs, rather than small one off jobs. Both large and small jobs often require a similar amount of programming and setup time, and on larger jobs that cost is spread out among more parts, making them cheaper.