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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    Any suggestions pal? I had read a post where you suggestion leadshine and some tricked up card from the US but I can't seem to find the thread
    With servo's then Kinco's are ok. Regards Motion control then it's a no brainer for me it's the Cslabs Csmio-IP-S. It's just not cheap but by far the best in this price range.

    One more thing with frame I swap the sections around and make couple of length changes. I'd use single piece top rails from square section and rectangle section for lower pieces see pic to see what i mean.
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    Nice on Dean, I had originally drawn something similar in, but I was wondering if the extrusion would sit level incase a bit of warp creeped into it.

    The way I have it I thought may compensate for any un level beams or warping

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    Nice on Dean, I had originally drawn something similar in, but I was wondering if the extrusion would sit level incase a bit of warp creeped into it.

    The way I have it I thought may compensate for any un level beams or warping
    No I wouldn't have it like you have at really because any bending or warping of the cross beams will directly affect the profile and rails and take away accurecy. I drew it without the cross beams more to show the single piece top rather than 2 pieces but other than that it's meant to be just same as you drew it.

    I wouldn't do it your way at all because it will make getting rails on same plane harder and any movement of cross beams will directly affect profile. The surface bed sits on isn't so critical as you will surface the bed parallel to the spindle but the surface the profile/rails sits on must be flat and on same plane each side or allow for the profile to be adjusted onto same plane.

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    I'm not sure I follow what your saying pal... I understand removing the vertical from the centre and putting a cross base in as the sides. Are you saying not to use the 9 cross members on the top now? If so what would be the best way to mount the extrusion
    Last edited by D-man; 24-11-2014 at 08:49 AM.

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    Is this the board you mentioned Dean? Looks a nifty unit

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    Is this the board you mentioned Dean? Looks a nifty unit
    I don't think you put the link in but here it is :- http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/elec...-step-dir.html there are 3 models. ..Clive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    I don't think you put the link in but here it is :- http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/elec...-step-dir.html there are 3 models. ..Clive
    Oops! morning brain fart!

    This is the link http://www.cs-lab.eu/en/produkt-18,2...onnectors.html but its the same Clive cheers pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    I'm not sure I follow what your saying pal... I understand removing the vertical from the centre and putting a cross base in as the sides. Are you saying not to use the 9 cross members on the top now? If so what would be the best way to mount the extrusion
    Ok well seeing your other post about already ordering stuff and the fact I can't be arsed to explain then just crack on. . .Lol

    The controller you want for servos is the IP-S because of it's much faster frequency that high count encoders require to get the best from servos.

    BUT just for clarity then the latest IP-M Beta Firmware now does slaved motors, all be it in a cut down way to the IP-S. (I haven't tried it yet so can't vouch for how well but I will and report)
    The way the IP-S handles slaved motors is different to typical way slaved motors are done with other controllers in that when it hits the switches it's got an option to measure the difference between each switch contact then applie an offset movement to one motor to square the gantry. That said with servo's you'd home using the encoder index which is much more accurate than switches but it works well for steppers without encoders.
    Other controllers like the ESS require you to manually adjust the switches to square the gantry.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Ok well seeing your other post about already ordering stuff and the fact I can't be arsed to explain then just crack on. . .Lol

    The controller you want for servos is the IP-S because of it's much faster frequency that high count encoders require to get the best from servos.

    BUT just for clarity then the latest IP-M Beta Firmware now does slaved motors, all be it in a cut down way to the IP-S. (I haven't tried it yet so can't vouch for how well but I will and report)
    The way the IP-S handles slaved motors is different to typical way slaved motors are done with other controllers in that when it hits the switches it's got an option to measure the difference between each switch contact then applie an offset movement to one motor to square the gantry. That said with servo's you'd home using the encoder index which is much more accurate than switches but it works well for steppers without encoders.
    Other controllers like the ESS require you to manually adjust the switches to square the gantry.!
    i like the sound of that! Do they require much setting up and wiring like steppers do? If you like I can get them, you can do your review and then send them back all wired up ready to go haha
    Last edited by D-man; 24-11-2014 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    i like the sound of that! Do they require much setting up and wiring like steppers do? If you like I can get them, you can do your review and then send them back all wired up ready to go haha
    If your talking about servo's then yes and no. Yes there's still signal wires from drives to controller but from drives to servos then you'll buy cables ready made up.
    To be honest derek if your not familiar with servos and PID tuning which can be tricky at times then you will be better sticking with steppers as they are simple easy and just has accurate if sized and run within there parameters.
    Yes modern servos and software are making it easier to tune them but compared to steppers there is still much more to them and more to wrong.!!

    And No before you ask.!! . . . Lol . . . Far far too busy.

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