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07-06-2015 #1
Cropwell: Yup from Arc new. Bought in October but although I unboxed and played around, it basically went into storage not long after. I never actually set Mach to run a part until recently and thats when I found the problem and its done it at some point every day I've gone out to use it.
I don't think the power to shed is the problem. I can't discount it though.. wouldn't really know how to. There is a fairly large capacitor inside the mill, but that might be for the output of the transformer... not the input.
It locked up on me again today. Pretty much as soon as it went into the material, so I got to work trying to diagnose... Disconnected the estop circuit from the control board and tried various things on the estop wires with a multimeter. All seemed fine... continuity on guard switch, estop button, wires etc etc. So tried bridging the the estop pin on the board with +5v which to my surprise DIDN'T work... still refused to come out of estop. Which was interesting. Went away and had dinner and decided that as there was plenty of free inputs, I should just try moving the estop onto a different pin. The machine came out of estop straight away and I was able to do another small part. I don't want to get to presumptuous... I have been at this stage before. Again only time will tell but my instinct tells me this might be it... maybe a dodgy / intermittent opto isolator on the control board. Decided to end on a high while there was still plenty of daylight so I didn't do anything else. Guess I'll find out tomorrow if I'm onto a winner.
Oh, and I was wrong... there is shielding on the signal cables.Last edited by lateAtNight; 07-06-2015 at 09:05 PM.
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07-06-2015 #2
Checking the voltages at the board is far simpler than testing each switch individually.
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If the fault re-occurs, measuring to see if the correct voltage is present at the BOB is the easiest and most accurate way to establish if there's a fault in the E-stop circuit. It could be a faulty input on the BOB, but unless you can confirm there is 5V across the relevant pins when the fault occurs, then you're only guessing where the fault is. It could just as easily be a lose connection somewhere.Avoiding the rubbish customer service from AluminiumWarehouse since July '13.
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18-06-2015 #3
Small update to this one... Its now semi solved.
I realised a few days back that my original attempt at bridging out the estop circuit was a bit flawed. I was using the LEDs on the controller board as an indication of whether the signals were active or not. When I first tried I assumed that the estop would get its power from the machine, but it doesn't. Its powered by usb, unlike the homing and limit switches which are on a 24v power source. The result being that when I bridged, turned on the power at the machine, saw LEDs for the homing / limits but not for the estop I assumed this was still this random estop problem, but it wasn't... it was the fact that I didn't have the usb plugged in.
I got sent a wiring diagram and realised the mistake... Bridged out the circuit and plugged in and have been milling parts the last few days. It has however STILL estopped on me mid cut, which is a little worrying as there is only a tiny bit of cable bridging the circuit. But just the once and I was able to immediately reset and continue.
I wouldn't say its solved by any means... For one I have no estop now. I'm dubious that the control card is paying attention to Mach's setting for debounce... I'll have a think / seek advice about trying to rewire to use the 24v power source for the estop and / or add a small capacitor onto the estop circuit to do a bit of debounce the physical way. All things which I'm aware you mentioned ages ago JAZZ.
Thanks for your help everyone!
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