Random Erratic Possible Stalling Problem with router

[Clive S]

It looks to me is that the Z is stalling. It could be that a driver is heating up and shutting down.
What drivers are you using and what is the voltage of your PS. Can you give more info and pic of the machine. ..Clive

[Earle]

Hi Clive, thanks for your comment, the router is a Chinese 6040, the ps is 24v and the drivers are YOC335. Feed rate for tool is 20mm/sec or 1.2m/min


I know this is generic Chinese stuff and I know some people's views on this type of machine but hey I have learnt so much I feel that I could now confidently build something more permanent!


following the fail in the video I did a goto zero and the y -axis had lost position by about 6/7cm, the up and down movement of the spindle I think is the z-axis doing the correct profile moves as there is a lot of detail in the job.

[Neale]

I found a few of these drivers for sale but no technical details with a quick Google. Like Clive, I would suspect driver overheating, assuming that obvious things like physical jamming have been ruled out. I saw a very similar set of symptoms when I was setting up my 3D printer; the drivers would just shut down when they overheated and start up again once cooled. Given that your cutting loads are probably quite low, you could try winding the max motor current down a bit, and also check that the motor static current is set to half - if the drivers support these functions... At least, this should be easy to try.

I'm guessing that the machine stalls in different places each time, so physical jamming seems unlikely, but if you can disconnect the steppers easily it might be worth doing so and checking that the slides move smoothly.

After that - interference/noise, bad connection, etc - all much more difficult to track down

[Earle]

Thanks Neale,

When I bought the machine I changed all of the wiring. Created correct earth paths etc - so hopefully got that one covered!! I also installed a UC100 and a different BOB!

I have stripped the hardware down and checked for any possible seizing but everything seems fine and moves easily.

I will look into your suggestions to see if that's possible! will report back....


Earle

[Clive S]

Thanks Neale,

When I bought the machine I changed all of the wiring. Created correct earth paths etc - so hopefully got that one covered!! I also installed a UC100 and a different BOB!

I have stripped the hardware down and checked for any possible seizing but everything seems fine and moves easily.

I will look into your suggestions to see if that's possible! will report back....


Earle

Are you by any chance running this on a laptop. In my opinion USB can give quite a few problems. ..Clive

[Earle]

Hi Clive and Neale,

Thanks for your input, Clive I am running this from a dedicated machine!

Neale, I have changed the max current on the drivers from 3.5A to 2A and the job ran all the way through both the roughcut 30mins and the finish 1h35m YIPPEE...........

Ok, so without getting too excited as I obviously will try the job again to prove a cure, but what are the consequences for the machine of me reducing the max current through the driver?

Would it be worth me stripping the driver apart to make sure that the chips are heat sinked correctly?

Earle

[Clive S]

Hi Clive and Neale,

Thanks for your input, Clive I am running this from a dedicated machine!

Neale, I have changed the max current on the drivers from 3.5A to 2A and the job ran all the way through both the roughcut 30mins and the finish 1h35m YIPPEE...........

Ok, so without getting too excited as I obviously will try the job again to prove a cure, but what are the consequences for the machine of me reducing the max current through the driver?

Would it be worth me stripping the driver apart to make sure that the chips are heat sinked correctly?

Earle

Earle It will depend on the load you put the machine under ie bigger dia tools or DOC feed rate etc. I am sure your machine would benefit from better drivers with a higher voltage PS supply. It looks like the drivers were overheating and shutting down. ..Clive