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  1. #1
    Hi Jazzcnc
    It is movable gantry type as can be seen from every picture. Posted two version of gantry, but will use that with vertical orientated profiles - last 4 pictures.

    Reason for using blocks on spindle plate is simple - less cutting chips on rails as they are higher - means Z plate.
    I am not quite sure how you can have variable length lever? Unless distance on bearing blocks can be adjusted accordingly.

    I have both 2.2Kw water cooled spindle which seems to be massive for this particular design. This will be engraver - mickey mouse machine, but precise enough for my needs. I might go for 1.2KW water cooled but is hard to find, 1.5KW no problem

    Thanks for reply
    Tom

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J View Post
    Hi Jazzcnc
    It is movable gantry type as can be seen from every picture. Posted two version of gantry, but will use that with vertical orientated profiles - last 4 pictures.
    The fact it doesn't have any legs or way for the gantry to clear the bench made me wonder if it was sat on the bench and the table moved.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J View Post
    Reason for using blocks on spindle plate is simple - less cutting chips on rails as they are higher - means Z plate.
    I am not quite sure how you can have variable length lever? Unless distance on bearing blocks can be adjusted accordingly.
    Your design is like a spring board with just one fixed length. The distance from the bearing block to the end of the plate is constantly that length no matter where it is on the rails. So if say the front plates deflects for argument sake 1mm it will do so at any extension along the rails.

    If you swap them around then this spring board is variable depending on how extended the rails from the bearings. So at full extension you'll have 1mm deflection but if only extend down half way then deflection halfs.!! . . . . Does that make sense.?



    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J View Post
    I have both 2.2Kw water cooled spindle which seems to be massive for this particular design. This will be engraver - mickey mouse machine, but precise enough for my needs. I might go for 1.2KW water cooled but is hard to find, 1.5KW no problem
    1.2 or 1.5Kw hardly much in it both miles better than Kress.
    Last edited by JAZZCNC; 19-09-2015 at 11:36 PM.

  3. #3
    For a machine this size I'd go for the fixed gantry option.

  4. #4
    doing miter cuts on the gantry frame is going to be a mission, unless you got a very accurate machine to cut at 45 degrees ...

    agree with the rails on the plate ...

    my thoughts :D

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrat View Post
    doing miter cuts on the gantry frame is going to be a mission, unless you got a very accurate machine to cut at 45 degrees ...

    agree with the rails on the plate ...

    my thoughts :D
    Here is how I did welding before I got those HD clamps - previous design - travel 900x400x150
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  6. #6
    Blackrat

    Mitre cuts is no problem doesn't need to be so accurate - 89-91 deg will do as I leave the gap for welding bead.
    Big problem is to keep control distortion - cooling/pulling after get cold. I bought HD clamp £45 each to keep the angle.
    Heat treatment is important as well - annealing (releases tension in welding joints)
    Last edited by Tom J; 20-09-2015 at 01:58 PM.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    For a machine this size I'd go for the fixed gantry option.
    This will reduce already short travel of 320mm to 220mm. Was considering that as is much simpler build

  8. #8
    Sorry, should say that, legs are missing - got adjustable stands 40mm with M8 stud on each corner, high enough so gantry can slide without touching leg surface.
    All will stand on table top or designated bench with enclosure - all depends the noise from spindle (Kress or 1.2-1.5Kw water)

    I will swap over blocks with rails on Z - in spite of travel of Z being 75% of distance between blocks and spindle plate overhanging length is 3 times the thickness of that plate.
    Thanks for pointing that - this will help me to reduce the Z plate overall length by Z travel which is 110mm:)

    I will try both spindles, only problem is that water cooled is heavier what cause the CoG move forward and is not in middle of sliding blocks on the gantry like is now with Kress.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J View Post
    I will try both spindles, only problem is that water cooled is heavier what cause the CoG move forward and is not in middle of sliding blocks on the gantry like is now with Kress.
    The slight change in CoG Won't make a Jot of difference to how the machine cuts but the WC spindle will make a big difference because it's far more ridged than the kress.!

    Coming along nice looking forward to seeing it working. ..

  10. #10
    Decided to use 1.5kw water cooled one after compared noise level with Kress - thanks Jazzcnc.
    Here is the base frame - profile 50x25x2

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