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12-11-2015 #1
I have bought a 3 phase air compressor. Its 4kw (5Hp) 380v (French voltage) 50Hz. It was wired in star, I have changed it to delta. So I can run it on 220v three phase. Now I know I can possibly run it on single phase if I put a capacitor across two of the winding's. I saw someones calculations on the internet. Please tell me if I have worked this out right ? ;
14u/A x 10.5A = 147uf
So I guess I need a 220v / 147uf inline Capacitor ?
Last edited by dudz; 12-11-2015 at 09:43 PM.
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12-11-2015 #2
Ok. Seems its not that easy. (Thanks Dean)
For those who are interested in this concept. Here is a link that might be of value. http://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/3-phase-converter-schematic-miller-system.100563/
Last edited by dudz; 12-11-2015 at 11:11 PM.
Swedish Storbro Luna - 3 axis CNC mIll - 250 - 2500rpm / 1.1 tonne
3 axis CNC/router / Alu profile frame....25mm Alu Cutting bed X=500mm Y=300mm Z=110mm.....Supported 25mm X rails ....Supported 20mm Y rails....Supported 20mm Z rails.....2.2kw Chinese WC spindle..... CSLAB CSMIO/IP-M 4-axis Ethernet Motion Controller....M542 Drivers..SY60STH86-3008BF Motors...running....Mach3 / Cambam / Emachineshop.
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12-11-2015 #3
I will probably buy a 220v 3 phase inverter or find a used single phase motor.
Swedish Storbro Luna - 3 axis CNC mIll - 250 - 2500rpm / 1.1 tonne
3 axis CNC/router / Alu profile frame....25mm Alu Cutting bed X=500mm Y=300mm Z=110mm.....Supported 25mm X rails ....Supported 20mm Y rails....Supported 20mm Z rails.....2.2kw Chinese WC spindle..... CSLAB CSMIO/IP-M 4-axis Ethernet Motion Controller....M542 Drivers..SY60STH86-3008BF Motors...running....Mach3 / Cambam / Emachineshop.
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13-11-2015 #4
I have never thought of wiring a 3 phase motor as single phase. Don't you have to have a centripetal switch as well as the capacitor? I didn't like to reply in case Jazz came along and told me that was only for cap start and I was being silly
Why would you want a single phase motor if you buy an inverter? Surely it would drive the motor you have, assuming you put it back the coils back the way they were.
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13-11-2015 #5
No centripetal switch, the additional start capacitor circuitry to provide enough phase shifted power to start the motor (which must be disconnected for run conditions) can be on a timer relay or be switched using voltage sensing, it used to be common for rotary converters to be spun up using a rope with a knot at the end on a pulley with a slot in one side, if you had end access to the motor you could even use a starting handle ;-)
I bought and read books on all this stuff before discovering Inverter VFDs, if you need a machine running next week, or tomorrow VFD is the way to go, if you have no time pressure you can get a machine running with caps, relays and miscellaneous gubbins but the VFD driven machine will be smoother and better.
- Nick
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