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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    you just need to have an RS232 connection to use the servo software, without Rs232, you will need to get a USB to RS232 adaptor.
    I have never used the interface on the driver to do any tuning, because it is so much easier using the software.
    Tuning with no load is not right and may cause the controller tuning to fail, or make the axis very spongy, so make sure you have the mass of the table there while tuning.
    Also make sure you save it after, or you will delete the tuning, once you cycle the power.
    Hi Gary, would a USB to RS232 interface not suffer the same issues as standard USB when it comes to timing's? Or is there something I am missing here.

    I also wonder if Linux is more reliable than windows (Especially when using USB) especially a Linuxcnc Live cd? I have no idea if you can get Mach 3 for Linux.

    Chaz I'll be interested to see if it was a crossed cable causing your issues, fingers crossed for your weekend movements ;)
    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/10880...60cm-work-area My first CNC build WIP 120cm*80cm

    If you didn't buy it from China the company you bought it from did ;)

  2. RS232 is only used to set up the kinco ac servo driver using the kinco servo software, it has nothing to do with cnc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertboy View Post
    Hi Gary, would a USB to RS232 interface not suffer the same issues as standard USB when it comes to timing's? Or is there something I am missing here.

    I also wonder if Linux is more reliable than windows (Especially when using USB) especially a Linuxcnc Live cd? I have no idea if you can get Mach 3 for Linux.

    Chaz I'll be interested to see if it was a crossed cable causing your issues, fingers crossed for your weekend movements ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    RS232 is only used to set up the kinco ac servo driver using the kinco servo software, it has nothing to do with cnc.
    Is the CNC ran through Ethernet? I think I must have missed a link somewhere along the way
    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/10880...60cm-work-area My first CNC build WIP 120cm*80cm

    If you didn't buy it from China the company you bought it from did ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desertboy View Post
    Hi Gary, would a USB to RS232 interface not suffer the same issues as standard USB when it comes to timing's? Or is there something I am missing here.

    I also wonder if Linux is more reliable than windows (Especially when using USB) especially a Linuxcnc Live cd? I have no idea if you can get Mach 3 for Linux.

    Chaz I'll be interested to see if it was a crossed cable causing your issues, fingers crossed for your weekend movements ;)
    USB serial works, its low baud rates.

    Mach 3 for Linux, no. There is Linux CNC which is meant to be good, but won't support my cslabs stuff as far as I'm aware.

    Thanks, will update over the weekend.

  6. Nice machine
    I have hsd 919 on my machine. I run from single phase using a dual stage vfd. 220 in 380 out.
    Stops in3 second no problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by battwell View Post
    Nice machine
    I have hsd 919 on my machine. I run from single phase using a dual stage vfd. 220 in 380 out.
    Stops in3 second no problem
    Thanks

    Please tell me more about this VFD? Make and model please. Does it output 380v?

  8. My machine has been running about 2 years using huanyang gt series. Il have to find exact model number. The only downside- no braking resistor relay as standard- its special order- but only £5. Also must be modified to run modbus ( I've done this)

    I have what seems to be better made "copy" of the same unit here on test too. Has braking interface and is modbus compatible from the factory- even though they don't supply modbus instructions- took me a week to work out how to talk to it. ( I can share the info)
    220 single in 380 out.
    On my machine running had 919 spindle I rarely see more than 5 amp current draw from the main supply.,
    Ecogoo 9100-00750-G-B
    While they have a max current draw of 34 amp mine is still working as I originally wired it for test from a 13a plug.

    Ecogoo can be found on aliexpress. Delivery was free and only took a few days to arrive. Just checked price at ££251 today
    That's the one I'd recommend

  9. Here's a video of mine running. On hy vfd.
    I set the vfd to show current
    https://youtu.be/C_xe_VP0_ps

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    I know voltage increasing VFDs do exist, but I can't see anything on either the Huanyang or Ecogoo sites/manuals about those VFDs being able to boost voltages.

    You can run 380V three phase motors from single phase using 230V single phase, however once you reach a certain frequency (roughly 2/3 of max rated frequency IIRC), the power available becomes voltage limited. Above that speed you can't get full power, as the voltage isn't high enough to overcome the back emf and drive the required current through the windings, so the available torque drops of as speed increases.
    Inverters Direct (aka Drives Direct) supply 230 to 380V VFDs. I did look into them and they are a commercial make (I did have the make/model, but can't find it) with lots of Drives Direct stickers on them. The non-rebadged inverters are available cheaper, but I suspect Drives Direct are doing some internal modifications to boost the input voltage.

    The easiest way to achieve it, would be a 250 to 380V step up transformer, big bridge rectifier, and bank of suitable capacitors, and feed the resulting 540VDC direct into the inverters DC bus. That way you bypass the VFDs own rectifier circuits (you could feed the 380V single phase directly in, however you risk overloading the VFDs internal rectifier circuit, and overheating the internal smoothing capacitors due to the increased ripple from only having a single phase supply).
    The other option, which is what I suspect Drives Direct are doing, is using a suitable oscillator circuit and inductors to do the boosting, as it would result in a far more compact system.

    I'd like to get my hands on a Drives Direct VFD to see just exactly what they are doing, but I'm not willing to pay their prices, and I don't think anybody who has bought one, would be willing to let me dismantle it to have a look.
    Avoiding the rubbish customer service from AluminiumWarehouse since July '13.

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