I was talking of this but now I look again it's the size of a bus. https://ebay.co.uk/itm/DAH-LIH-MCV-1....c100005.m1851

The second one looks like a classical Bridgeport based machine but a proper CNC system from new. Might be OK but has only 5" quill movement and no enclosure(!).

Quite a few nice looking VMCs on Craigslist around the £5-6k. Didn't know Craigslist had become so established over here. It's the default marketplace over in Canada / US - must keep an eye on it now I'm back in UK.....