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    Ok, but by building a custom Z-axis and mounting it on the rear of the ram I would retain whatever travel I build into the new axis, it means swivelling the ram round to change from heavy to light milling but thats about it, plus would need two z-axis drives - heavy and light.

    The Z on the heavy side is a pain, a couple that i have seen today - one replaced the quill lever with a toothed pulley and drove that via a planetary gearbox reduction - seemed ok, another replaced the fine-feed hand wheel and drove that, the ones that mount to the front of the quill I am not too impressed with, have read a few tales of quills being trashed by the single bolt pulling out.

    As for speed, so far most of my mini-mill work ranges from 600mm/min to 150mm/min - hardly blistering, I'm sure the old girl can match that ;)

    I think this may be an interesting project.

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    Yes, that would do it. I have gone with direct drive on the quill and do not over drive it. The fine feed goes through a clutch while the backlash on the lever is too much for CNC.
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    Good points, thanks.

    By direct, I gather you have the screw nut coupled to the front where the depth-stop used to sit?

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    It's slippery slope and quickly your into it $$$ before too far to stop.!! . . . Don't Do it Listen to John S.

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    awww, bum, damn that cold hard logic JAZZ ;)

    In my defence, it would pretty much fit in with exactly what i want though!

    So, the alternatives then -

    Find a donor machine and hopefully just fit the electrics?

    Downsides I can see...

    space - nowhere to put it.
    would like a big table again - this seems to mean a big machine (see point above)
    transport costs
    unknown wear & tear
    different tooling probably

    This seems not too bad, but its bed is quite small, although it does have an ATC - would that be the sort of stuff to search for???

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1821213470...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
    Last edited by Davek0974; 12-05-2016 at 06:08 PM.

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    Yep I'd take that every time over converting BP.

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    Hmm, looks like a no-go then - it weighs 4,500kg and has a 7.5kw spindle - i could not get that sort of power in the shop and anything much heavier than BP would be a bitch to get into place.

    The bed is poor too - 500x600 not much bigger than my mini-mill!

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    Something that rarely gets mentioned...Power required...

    I have a 3ph 2.2kW spindle motor on a vfd, 700w X servo, 700w Y servo, 400w Z servo, maybe 100w for pc and controller on this machine.

    How do i calculate the supply capacity allowing for diversity - it will not be running 100% flat out all the time :)

    I know i need to uprate the MCB's and supply cables as the build was originally for the small 1.5hp spindle motor.

    Adding up the maximum ratings for all drives gives a figure way more than i can supply :)
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    A quick mental calc, and I'd say 16A would cover you.
    2200+700+700+400 = 4000.
    Divide that by 220 gives 18A, or 250 gives 16A.

    Power up surges of the drives are likely to give a bigger problem than too much current draw during use.
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    Thanks, so there is no difference in current draw if a 3ph motor is running on 3ph or on converted single to 3ph via a vfd (apart from the internal vfd usage) ??

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