On going chinese 6040 problems
	
	
		OK so iv been trying to set up my 6040 cnc and to be honest i can run it and i have cut some MDF with it, but im not 100% happy with it. The problem i have is if i set the motor tuning to the recommended setting the steppers jam. To prevent this i have to run them at less than half the recommended settings.  Here is a video of whats happening maybe someone can help,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3I8...ature=youtu.be
hope some one can help
	 
	
	
	
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		It would help if you gave some details about power supply, voltage, motor specs if you have them and driver.
That would be a start so people can make an informed opinion.   ..Clive
	 
	
	
	
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		Also do you have Mach3 set to mm or inches ?
	 
	
	
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		yer sorry this is what i have 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-ROUTER...item2c5eac77af
and this is what in the box and the steppers 
Attachment 13327Attachment 13328Attachment 13329Attachment 13330
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i dont know if that helps.. i also have mach3 set to mm .
thanks for the help Mick
	 
	
	
	
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		It looks like you have this setup;
3163B Stepper Driver
set to;
Dynamic Current = 2.5A
1/8 Microstep
50% Standstill Current
57HD5401-14S/8 Stepper Motor
1.8 step angle
6.6V
3A
2.2 Ohms
8mH
17kg/cm
4 wire
24v 8.3A DC PSU
1605 ball screws
And that being so, the settings you have seem to be okay as far as I can make out.
However I did a conversion of the motor torque setting and 17 kg/cm = 1.6671305 Nm, this is not so good but as your video shows they are not under load.
I think you could reduce the microstepping and see if that helps, remember to change the Mach3 'steps per' to match.
5m pitch
1.8 deg motor
1/8 microstep (8)
360/1.8 = 200
200/5 = 40
8 * 40 = 320 steps per
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Reduce microstepping to 2 by setting K1 ON, K2 OFF
5m pitch
1.8 deg motor
1/2 microstep (2)
360/1.8 = 200
200/5 = 40
2 * 40 = 80 steps per
	 
	
	
	
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		ok thanks ill try that. im rite in thinking at the moment they are both set to on. so all i need to do is switch k2 down on all three . Then change the steps per to 80  . I do have 3 of these i could try and see if its any better if that dose not work .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EU-Free-Sc...item338efc0758
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
amxen
				 
			
	 
 The problem with these motors in the inductance is far too high.  Check these out:- http://cnc4you.co.uk/resources/60BYGH301B.PDF and see the difference, the motors you have require a much higher voltage to drive them.  I would be selling them and getting some with lower inductance.    ..Clive
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
Clive S
				 
			The problem with these motors in the inductance is far too high.  Check these out:- 
http://cnc4you.co.uk/resources/60BYGH301B.PDF and see the difference, the motors you have require a much higher voltage to drive them.  I would be selling them and getting some with lower inductance.    ..Clive
	 
 Now you have lost me with inductance. i got this kit awile ago with the plane to make my own cnc but ended up buying one . this is the kit i have spare 
http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6104230003.html
but i was thinking i could just use the stepper motors if the ones im using arnt up to it. So is this not the case ?
Are you saying my power supply is not upto the job because if thats so could i not just swap it out for the 36v one i have ?
	 
	
	
	
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		On the picture I looked at it says on the terminals 24V, Gnd, so are you sure it can be powered by 36V ? if it can then it might be a good idea to try the other supply.
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
EddyCurrent
				 
			On the picture I looked at it says on the terminals 24V, Gnd, so are you sure it can be powered by 36V ? if it can then it might be a good idea to try the other supply.
			
		
	 
 I agree I have a feeling that those drivers are only OK up to 24V  So unless you like magic smoke don't go higher.  Clive