Printable View
hi ppl I got a 3040t I bought about 5 years ago it runs on windows xp I want to run a different program from mach 3 I also want it to run grbl so I can use t2laser software with it is there a cheep option as I have not completed a project on it thanks
You want to replace Mach3 with GRBL...? You must be joking... :glee:
Get a new PC and (which you need to do anyway) and continue with Mach3.
ah that's the problem it is a newer pc with windows 7 but my 3040t will only run on windows xp I just bought a parallel port card but no luck
In that case that's not an XP issue but a driver issue. You have two options, buy a motion controller, or get the right driver for the parallel port card. You must be using 32-bits version of W7 because that's the last one supporting PP card. If you want to use 64-bit version then you must get a motion controller, like UC100 or something similar. A better option is UC400ETH but it is slightly more expensive, and not as plug-and-play as the UC100, which is basically a USB to PP converter, but it is a motion controller, not just a simple converter.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
I bought a uc100... a parallel port card... but a friend said its not a typical cnc control box think its one of the first only xp will work on it i put the parallel port card in its working fine set up mach3 same as on my xp pc wont work but works fine on xp i got a spare power supply so might get a mana 3 stepper board so i can keep the old pc for when i want to use mach3
I am not sure I understand what you are saying. If it is a genuine UC100 then it works with any Windows version and you don't need a parallel port card with it, so if you have a UC100 then I don't understand the problem. What is a "typical CNC control box" according to your friend?Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v2fT5DjhJA its something to do with the parallel port card on my control boxAttachment 24566Attachment 24567Attachment 24568Attachment 24569
The pictures are pretty bad, but to me it looks like an ordinary BOB. It has NOTHING to do with XP since the PC has no idea about what's on the other side. If you have a UC100 you just plug that in into the PC USB port, install the Mach3 plugin and connect the UC100 to that BOB in the first picture, configure Mach3 the same way as it was in the XP and that's it. There is no parallel port involved at all. Mach3 works on any version of Windows, not only XP. That linked video is talking nonsense if it claims that Mach3 only works with XP. Believe me, I am using Mach3 and have used it with XP, W7 64 bit and now W10 Pro 64-bit. Regarding the connection of UC300 I think you should read the manual, not just watch a video.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
its showing mach3 is workin but its not communicating with the control box and cnc and its set up the way I got it on my xp pc where it works
Parallel Port cards (and later PC integrated PPs) are a Crap Shoot as far as output voltages are concerned, some BOBs need 5v logic levels, some newer PPs don't deliver that.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
Just to be sure have you tested your PP with a printer to ensure it's at least functional?
If you want a Gerbil you'll want an Arduino to keep it in, not a PC :D
Have you considered a stand alone box like the DDCSV1.1 or 2.1? I think that's probably the way to go at this point if you want to move away from Mach3, I'm just about to start testing with one on my little 4-Axis Mill -
Attachment 24570
Attachment 24571
Attachment 24572
i just dont know y it wont talk to the cnc
For the last time... The problem is NOT that you used XP and now using W7. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
If you have a genuine UC100 then it should work. The PC you are using has absolutely no clue about your CNC, there is ZERO communication between Mach3 and the CNC if you use a parallel port and that BOB you showing. Look for the problem somewhere else, your UC100 plugin installation for example. Also be aware of the fact that unless it is GENUINE UC100 you are using, the plugin will not work, and if you bought your UC100 on the eBay outside the official sources then it is likely that it is a fake UC100. Have you tried contacting the manufacturer? CNC Drive is very good at communicating and gives good support for genuine product users. If on the other hand you bought the UC100 on the eBay then there is nothing else to do then throw it in the rubbish bin. No support is given for the pirate products.
By the way, I looked at the fuzzy pictures you posted and it seems like that BOB is only partially completed. Looks as the inputs do not have any screw terminals... are you sure that this is the same BOB as the one which was working before? Where do you have your limit switches connected? Beware that Mach3 will NOT work if you have configured for limit switches and e-Stop and you don't have any installed or have them configured to the wrong logic level. That BOB looks definitely weird to my eyes.
think the bob is the problem
right y does it work fine if i change over to my old xp pc with all the same settings im running it through a parrallel port atm they sending me a new uc 100 the bob no is hwj130613b cant find anything about it
a search for hwj1306b found this link
https://damogranlabs.com/wp-content/...-cnc-guide.pdf
the breakout board is another variant of the chinese boards used in 6040 cnc machines and sold on ebay or amazon etc
going by the photo on page 13 of the damogranlabs guide
nothing remarkable - just another Mach3 or linux CNC BOB
I guess the 12 printer port outputs are buffered by two 74hc244 or 74hc245 IC's
four of the five inputs for your limit switches & touch probe are isolated by opto-isolators (pc817 ?)
the E-stop switch being connected directly to the printer port
John
ty but still wont work on windows 7
Is your Win7 32 or 64 bit?Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
i think its 64 bit
Someone's 'avin a Giraffe 'ere :D
????
you need 32bit windows 7
mach3 can not control the printer port if you have 64 bit windows
just checked its win 7 32 bit
This was asked in post #4Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
Then it works!
I'm running Mach3 on Win7 32Bit
How have you confirmed the functionality of your Parallel Port?
mach3 is showing its working on pc but its not moving anything on my cnc
Doesn't matter since he says he is using an UC100.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clive S
Yes but he is not very good at answering questions... anyway, if he is using an UC100, as he said later, then it doesn't matter. So his conclusions are totally wrong, has nothing to do with XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clive S
ok here we go I bough uc100 tried it mack3 estop was on and I couldn't turn it off as u know if estop wont reset mach3 wont work to move steppers on cnc so I bought a parallel port card it turns off the reset but still nothing works on the cnc BUT if I connect my old pc with xp on it all the same settings as windows 7 it works fine
so the original breakout board works with the old XP PC but not the new windows 7 PC
its possible the W7 PC either not configured correctly or
has a 3.3V output that is too low for the BOB
when you tried the uc100
what state was the green power LED & blue Communication LED ?
inside of a uc100
Attachment 24573
LEDs visible either side of USB connector
Attachment 24574
may be the UC100 plug in is not installed correctly ??
John
so whats the output on my xp and my uc100 is a bogus one thought I ordered a proper one it was sold as a uc100
So you have a fake UC100...? Even so, if your parallel port card is OK it should work with w7 32 bit, as I have told you before.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
Regarding another matter... could you please show some respect to the people trying to help you with YOUR problems by answering ALL questions and type using even capital letters AND punctuation. Your posts are difficult to read and understand and show disrespect because of this. Remember that none of us are obliged to help you and the least you could do is showing some respect, not expecting every reader to decode your words. Perhaps you don't care about these things, I don't know.
I appreciate all the help and am not being disrespectful I would say u r the disrespectful one I have a disability called dyslexia and for you to publicly shame me because of your discrimination is hurtful and really rude
I know where you are coming from as I have a mild form of it as well and struggle to spell even simple words sometimes. I use the right mouse button when a see a red line under a word to correct the spelling and that helps me a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
Having said that it can be very difficult to help if you don't say what the problem is and try and be clear with what you are actually using ie. its not clear if you are using a standard PP bob or a UC100 type.
I find just straight bullet points type questions are better to keep to the point.
I see in John's post #29 he asked you a question that you have not yet answered, that frustrates people that gives there time up trying to help.
Please don't take offence with the above.
it is answered
I not got led lights as its a fake uc100
Not easy to know and I am not talking about spelling. Also dividing messages into sentences is not connected to dyslexia it's just simple ignorance when you not even try. There is also no discrimination involved a anywhere near in anything I said. I have also not been rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
the ignorance is on your part. I've never talked to anybody so arrogant. you have had digs since my first post I wont be using this forum anymore if it involves ppl like you
No one selling a Fake UC100 puts the phrase Fake UC100 in their advert, what tells you it's fake is the price being too low and the seller not being an authorised distributor.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshkoiman1962
Summat for Nowt is often a poor deal, or as W.C Fields said "You can't cheat an honest man" :D
If you bought the 'UC100' from Amazon or Ebay, you should approach them for a refund. It would help if you would tell us where the 'UC100' came from and how much you paid for it. Then maybe members of the forum could advise you the likelihood of it being a fake.
I, personally, have no experience with these devices, but have a control box which uses two BoBs and is run from a XP PC with a PP card and onboard parallel port. As has been mentioned, getting the right drivers is a pain in the arse, and I had to resort to hardware identification codes to track down the software needed. If you don't speak fluent computer, then you have little to no chance - Sorry !
I seem to recall that, at the start of this thread, you had a working CNC system on XP - so why change. If it ain't broke don't fix it !
Then again, you were wanting to do something else (I recall GRBL being mentioned) - so treat it as a separate problem and ask for advice on the way forward with that.