Hi All,
Just wandered if Gerry is still giving help with Mach3?? Do you have a contact for him??
Mike
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Hi All,
Just wandered if Gerry is still giving help with Mach3?? Do you have a contact for him??
Mike
What's your problem.?
What kind of problem do you have?
I have posted this on here some weeks ago, nothing sugested has sadly work, incluing re install of Mach3. To add to below I did some more checks and everything on the screen st works, but no motor movement
Sadly my Gecko540 gave up on me, although I changed the fuse it sounds like there is a short somewhere which I cant find, I had bought some time ago a package of a breakout board and driver board. The breakout board connects to the computer with the same parallel cable as the gecko did. I have power to both boards red lights and if I use the key board I have green lights on the driver board each motor and the DRO's move, BUT I have no power or movment of the steppers.
What have I missed?? I have run the driver test in Mach3, I have run the diver test and have an very good on this setting.
Mike
Sad about your G540, but you cad send it to Gecko drive for repair, it will be fixed for free, one time only, no questions asked, just shipping costs.
Which breakout board do you have?
Which stepper drivers you have?
When asking these kind of questions be precise and provide all relevant info.
Hi,
I contacted Geko and they will not repair due to costs. I dont want to buy a new one incase I have the same problem
This is what I have, but the break out board has a parallel port connection.
https://bulkman3d.com/product/mach3-...roller-bundle/
Mike
Here is my breakout board
Attachment 30863
I wouldn't touch a TB6600 driver (or this whole kit) with a bargepole!!!!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
DM556 from stepperonline all the way.
So. Are you saying you have that kit but don't have the STB5100 cotroller, just the stepper driver board and generic 5 axis parallel bob?.
One would assume that you could get a jst-xh cable and link the 2 boards that way.
Have to check the manuals to see if the wire order is correct but the little connectors inside the white plugs are easy to swap around.
There's nothing wrong with TB6600 drivers. It's a reasonable no-frills driver.
It was the older TB6560's that often blew up, but that was because they had a lower max voltage, and people often drove them near that limit, so a fast deceleration was enough to over-voltage them and damage them.
Although I personally wouldn't run an all-in-one board.
I thought I replied to your email, but I don't see it in my outbox.Quote:
BUT I have no power or movement of the steppers.
If the motors are not locked up, then either they are wired wrong, or the drive is not working. DO they require an Enable signal?
Hi, If I buy four DM 556 can use my break out board I sent a pic off?
I dont want to spend money and find I have the same problem!!
Mike
This one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
http://www.mycncuk.com/attachment.ph...3&d=1644928792
Yes.
PC+ (5V+) To ALL pul+, Dir+ (&En+ if you use it) on the drives.
Pul- (pins 2,4,6,8 on board) to Pul- on drivers.
Dir- (pins 3,5,7,9 on board) to Dir- on drivers.
For En- I used p14.
Or the little white plugs. Mine are marked +5v, CLK, CK, EN. (CLK is pul, CK is dir).
Then used p16 for coolant and p17 for a relay NC position (had grief with the onboard)
Is all here:
https://warp9td.com/images/BOB_Vendo...line/ST-V2.pdf
To be honest. ANY board that has pulse, direction, enable, 5v+, 5v-, can run a stepper driver.
Hi, am I right in thinking I wont have to change any settings in Mach3 if I use this set up??
Mike
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazp1976
Hi sorry I am still having problems, I have bought a stepper diver and wired it up I still have all lights and all functions on Mach3 screen set working but still NO power to steppers. If I turn the computer off the stepper locks .
Mike
You need to show how you have it wired . also you will need 12-24v and 5V connected to the bobQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
Attachment 30923Attachment 30922
Hi, I have attched two pics I have used a four lead from driver to breakout board is this OK
Mike
Not very informative. Do you have it wired as per post #12?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
These boards do require a 12-24v supply added on the right hand side to run the spindle control AND the inputs. The 5v usb supplies the outputs only.
I see you don't have the larger supply yet so....
Is E-stop turned off in Mach3?.
Do you have power to the driver?.
Some drivers require the enable signal to be used.
Are the wires actually the same config on both board and driver?. Or did you not look and just plug it in?.
I need a close up of the driver connectionns showing the symbols/names, or written down. Pul+/- dir+/- en+/- etc.
Blurry pictures are as good as useless, and you need to give more specific info. If you can't take a good picture then at least draw a little diagram showing where each wire connects. Also, show the settings you have in Mach3, screenshots work best.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazp1976
Hi Thank you for your help I now have all Axis working! well I have power to them. Only one will run continuously, the others judder. I have attached a pic how do I set up the red box I only have 123?Attachment 30924
Thanks again
Mike
Why'd you get the P, O, S, TB6600?.
https://m.aliexpress.com/wholesale/T...tml?osf=direct
Hope you didn't pay too much.
Should've saved yourself aggro and just gone with 542 or 556.
You get what you pay for.
As I've said numerous times before, TB6600 are OK drivers, yet you seem to want to say they're rubbish at every opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazp1976
They are by no means a high performance driver, but they're a reasonable basic stepper driver.
It was the older TB6560 which was well known for failing, but that was mostly down to people trying to run them on too high a voltage. If you actually ran them within their operating voltage range, they were an OK driver.
Not every application needs maximum voltage or performance.
Hi Thanks again for your help. I now have power to stepper motors but they will not run, they sound stalled or trying to run to fast so do not rotate
Do you have any idea ??
Mike
Double check you have A+A-B+B- motor connections in the correct order on the driver. If incorrect you can get this happen due to dir conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
Which model numbers are the motors specifically.?.
What is actual machine?.
Hi Thanks for that, My steppers are 60BYG301B
Mike
Hi It is a home built and was working great until my Geko 540 gave up. Do I use all six wires fro the motor and Bipolar series??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
Mike
This may help-
https://cnc4you.co.uk/resources/Step...1B%203.1Nm.pdf
Ah!!!!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
I see 8 wires.
Best balance for both speed/torque is parallel. Also lowers your inductance. Twist pairs together and connect as folliws:
A+ RED & BLU
A- YEL & BLK
B+. WHT & BRN
B- ORG & GRN
Then 10-45v power supply in the other 2 terminals (marked 32v & GND I think).
Try that.
I see your motors are 3.2mh inductance in parallel (it's lowest level avail). Not great for trying to get fast rapids on only 36v or less. Fine for general cutting speeds.
Most likely happening because your motor tuning in mach3 is set for the Gecko drives and these cheaper TB-based drives cannot handle the same tuning setup. Try backing off the velocity and Acceleration by 50% and try again. When you have it working stable then slowly increase them one at a time until they start to stall again then back off again by 10%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
To back up post #29.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
If the motor is a 6 wire the TB6600 won't support unipolar wiring.
In this case wire it as if it were a 4 wire stepper.
Hi All,
Thank you all so much for your help. I don't seam to be getting anywere with what I have, I can get full movement on Y axis using Z port on the settings I was using??
If my breakout board is OK then what drivers should I buy??
I am so upset with all this as when we left UK it was running so well. I dont have the money to buy a new Geko and even if I did I have a deep feeling it would not fix things and I would be where I am now but having spent lots of money.
Thanks again guys you have all been a help.
Mike
Without a doubt this one. The stepperonline drive is very good and priced well atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/di...r-motor-dm556t
It shows in the pdf wiring for a 6 lead motor which means it supports unipolar. I also looked at the pdf of gecko 540 and it also had 6 wire wiring examples.
This is possibly why TB6600 isn't happy, it doesn't support it.
So. DM556T driver and myself I'd try it wired half coil.
https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/download/DM556T.pdf
The drive is available from stepperonline in the EU and it is also available on Aliexpress.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/100500...001422484003.0
I more or less get everything from Aliexpress these days.
I've given up with UK. Availability is awful, mostly has the cheap stuff, and also at stupid pricing.
You could get the DM542T but the 556 is better value. Price difference is negligable and your motors look like they are 4.2A which is full on the 542. If your motor heat is low at 4.2 you have nowhere to go with it. The 556 gives you options.
DAFT QUESTION.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
Do you have all 6 motor wires connected to TB6600?.
Because, if you look at the pdf's in post 33. All 6 wire configurations show 2 wires are disconnected. Only 4 are used on 4 wire drivers.
Hi,
No I have four, After putting wires together I now have four. I was wrong I do have eight wires on motor.
Mike
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
At least we're clear on wire count now.
Parallel is definately best.
Hello everyone I am a new user to MYCNCUK and I would like to wade in with a problem that I have so here goes........ " I have built my own control panel and every thing looks well, accept for I can't get my Mach3 software to hand shake with the Bluesky T AM9587 5 axis 100Kz motion controller, I have tried using 2 different USB motion drivers UB100 and RnR motion driver and both do not recognise the AM9587 brake out board by displaying ( not recognised plug in the cable and try again ) I assume that it means the USB cable which is connected so the USB drive is not for the brake out board ) dose any one know if there is a dedicated USB driver for AM9587 motion controller board.
Hi,
I bought a DM556T I now have all axis working OK so I will buy the other three I need.
Do I need to have a 5v power supply to each one or can I just use the 5v from the board??
Mike
Wire it as per the diagram in the image here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes Planes
Red and blue is the same to all drivers. Then pul/dir to chosen axis pins.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2a/05/34/2...179bfb9f8b.jpg
There is a pdf users manual here if still using that generic 5 axis board with relay:
https://warp9td.com/images/BOB_Vendo...line/ST-V2.pdf
Hi dazp,
I now have all axis working fine. I connected stop limts, probe for hight of tool but none of them work. I wired them as per manual still nothing, Have i missed somthing?? I have attached the manual for you to look at
Regards
Mike
Attachment 30989
Attachment 30989