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    Rob Have you thought about a 12V or 24V led and feed it from a commercial power brick CE aproved
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    Rob Have you thought about a 12V or 24V led and feed it from a commercial power brick CE aproved
    Yes, but couldn't find a suitable one. The driver we are using on out test rig is this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2015292070...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT and it has CE marking and IP65 printed on it (???).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    Yes, but couldn't find a suitable one. The driver we are using on out test rig is this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2015292070...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT and it has CE marking and IP65 printed on it (???).
    Can you buy one that is CE rated?

    This might be a good read: http://www.meanwell.eu/ExclusivePDF/...OVALS-NOTE.pdf
    Last edited by Clive S; 02-09-2016 at 06:32 PM.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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    Rob,
    I didn't make it clear but my reasoning for the thermal fuse is to use one rated above the temperature which the light unit might reach in a very warm room under normal operating conditions such that the power would cut before anything got hot enough to melt or burn,
    Regards,
    Nick
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    1. Thanks Clive, A right riveting read Actually it may be relevant as the LED driver pictured on page 1 is the one (or very similar) we are using. I realise that CE could mean 'Chinese Equivalent'.

    2. Yes Nick, I realised that. We still have tests to do to see temperature rises, but the LED is on a heatsink with plenty of free air (a fan would detract from the artistic aspects). As far as melting is concerned, I have no worries over the cast iron or bronze, but start to get a bit wary about the aluminium. My main concern is the driver and LED chip going pop in flames. There is a 20mm fuse holder which will be furnished with a 1A glass fuse.

    No I am not being sarky! I am just knackered after a hard day watching my son do some grafting. I have just had to resort to painkillers (Bacardi and coke). Thanks mates, for taking onboard this issue and providing me with some meat to chew.

    Cheers,

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    My main concern is the driver and LED chip going pop in flames..
    Yes, that's the bit that will get hotter than normal before it burns ;-)
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    Here's some pics of the lamp base. Don't forget that is only a prototype to test the idea out, nowhere near a finished product, so if you see anything that needs to be changed, please say.

    My desk isn't normally like that, I tidied it up to get some space to take the photos

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    Having looked through the photos, I can see one thing that needs attention - the mains wires input to the driver !

    Cheers,

    Rob
    Last edited by cropwell; 04-09-2016 at 11:14 PM.

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    Rob I am not an expert But I would put some mica or other suitable material under the mains choc block so as to make sure no strands of wire will touch the ali base.

    edit I don't see the frustation hammer on the table
    Last edited by Clive S; 04-09-2016 at 11:20 PM.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    I would put some mica or other suitable material under the mains choc block so as to make sure no strands of wire will touch the ali base.
    You are right, the mains shrouding will have to be attended to. All things electrical have to be quadruple safe, just to protect yourself from twats. I hope the sculpture itself will be expensive enough for owners to keep brats with paper clips off it. But you k-never k-know. If people are daft enough to try and dry off a poodle in a microwave and then successfully sue because the manufacturers instructions didn't say not to, what hope is there for the intelligent world ?

    TTFN

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    Here's some pics of the lamp base. Don't forget that is only a prototype to test the idea out, nowhere near a finished product, so if you see anything that needs to be changed, please say.

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    Having looked through the photos, I can see one thing that needs attention - the mains wires input to the driver !

    Cheers,

    Rob
    Why don't you show this to a local, CERTIFIED electrician and ask his/her opinion? It may cost £100-150 if you want a written report also, but can't be that expensive if you only wants an opinion. Anyway, it is money well worth spending if you have this as a serious business idea.

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