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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Camera View Post
    certified
    A certified UK Electrician was surprised to find an IP56 RCD socket under my kitchen sink, he said "We just fit ordinary sockets under sinks"

    Certified Electricians here are not taught to think logically or apply reason or spot issues not covered specifically in their training or manuals, if you happen to find one who is particularly intelligent that's great but is is not a requirement for certification ;-)
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Certified Electricians here are not taught to think logically or apply reason or spot issues not covered specifically in their training or manuals, if you happen to find one who is particularly intelligent that's great but is is not a requirement for certification ;-)
    I think that Part P (domestic) Certification covers two topics 1. Not burning the house down and 2. Not electrocuting anybody.

    Generally there is a two day course and a 20 question exam (with course books allowed).

    It is about on the level of - Do No Harm and don't drag your knuckles when you walk.

    R

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    A certified UK Electrician was surprised to find an IP56 RCD socket under my kitchen sink, he said "We just fit ordinary sockets under sinks"
    I think that modern wiring dictates that you have to have the kitchen on a separate ring with RCD (could be wrong though)
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    I think that modern wiring dictates that you have to have the kitchen on a separate ring with RCD (could be wrong though)
    Yes, Clive, I am sure you are right for new build or major rewiring. When I had my kitchen refitted, I had to have a new consumer unit with RCDs. Now if a bulb goes ping, it puts the lights out for the whole of that lighting circuit. I think if you look at an RCCB in the wrong tone of voice, it flips (like Her Indoors).

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    I think that modern wiring dictates that you have to have the kitchen on a separate ring with RCD (could be wrong though)
    You do, a friend had a new kitchen and they put a new box in for it, seems electricians aren't required to know how to use a level, they even refused to go back and straighten up their shoddy work as it was "safe"
    Luckily my new kitchen didn't require a rewire.

    - Nick
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    Just to let you see the quasi end results.

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    We still need to pursue the external power supply idea, but these are the demo pieces for the craft fair starting tomorrow at the old Truman's Brewery, Brick Lane EC1.

    Even before the exhibition starts, we have had a lot of interest in these pieces.

    Cheers,

    Rob

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    Very nice Rob good luck at he exhibition
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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    Looks great, I'm sure you'll get the specification sorted,
    Regards,
    Nick
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    We sold two of them at #LDF16 over the weekend. Now we have pressure to get the power supply right ! Especially as the retail price is near £1,000.
    Rob

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    I just gave my opinion, which I regret I did.
    Last edited by A_Camera; 10-09-2016 at 07:33 PM.

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