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    Update:

    I'm up to 3m/min rapid speed on X and Y, it will go a lot faster but the stand shakes and rocks. Got index homing, f-error < 0.03mm reliably, still not quite tuned but its working ok. I've got no idea on feeds and speeds, I keep stalling the 24k rpm spindle with larger end mills or gumming up smaller end mills.

    Got the counter weight system in place now, went a bit over the top with the chain and mounts:

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    Which has meant I've finally got the Z-axis servo installed.

    I think the next step is an enclosure, i'm using some Dexter like shower curtains at the moment chips are still going everywhere.

    I'll get some designs done and see what you guys think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Update:

    I'm up to 3m/min rapid speed on X and Y, it will go a lot faster but the stand shakes and rocks. Got index homing, f-error < 0.03mm reliably, still not quite tuned but its working ok. I've got no idea on feeds and speeds, I keep stalling the 24k rpm spindle with larger end mills or gumming up smaller end mills.

    Got the counter weight system in place now, went a bit over the top with the chain and mounts:

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    Which has meant I've finally got the Z-axis servo installed.

    I think the next step is an enclosure, i'm using some Dexter like shower curtains at the moment chips are still going everywhere.

    I'll get some designs done and see what you guys think
    Congrats. The Z belt looks loose from the pic - is it tight?

    The 24K spindles dont have a lot of torque. What KW rating is it?


    When you say 'larger' endmills - what size and what RPM are you running them at? You should run pretty much everything at 24K RPM. Below 12K RPM these spindle will stall, drilling becomes a challenge, so interpolation is the best option. Smaller End mills being gummed up is too little lubrication if doing Alu - a bit of WD40 and you should be sorted. On my 'old' 4KW Chinese VFD Id run it at 24K RPM all the time, just adjust the feed rate based on cutter diameter (up to 12mm) which is pretty much max unless you go for some interesting facemill / MT adaptor which Id be concerned about using on these type of spindles.

    You can do a bit of tweaking in the VFDs but not a lot if you use the standard HY one. You can get better ones - but then you might want to consider a 380V spindle and use something like the Ecogogo VFD that does Vector and upconverts the voltage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    I've got no idea on feeds and speeds, I keep stalling the 24k rpm spindle with larger end mills or gumming up smaller end mills.
    What material are you cutting and what grade.? These spindles don't like large endmills or large drills, Not enough torque at the speeds required.
    I pretty much exclusively cut Aluminium with mine and 8mm 3 flute works best. They will happily cut between 10-16K and will also drill at these speeds with drills up to 8mm thou I tend to turn up the RPM for drilling any way because of small drill size.

    If you have Cam software that supports adaptive tool paths then use them because really suits these spindles with higher speeds n feeds and allows you to remove a good amount of material without stressing the spindle motor.

    Regards the gumming up you are probably cutting to slow or even too shallow so your rubbing rather than cutting and overheating the tool. It's a common error people make when not used to cutting aluminum. Often They think it's the opposite and they are going too fast so slow it down or take even shallower cuts and it gets worse still.!!
    That or you are trying to cut shitty 1050 series aluminum which is a nightmare to cut unless you cut through it in one go.?

    It's a Similar thing with chatter.! . . don't slow it down, up the feed rate to push harder to increase tool pressure and it often goes away. Thou it's all a learning curve and each machine behaves slightly different and you tweak to suit.

    Machines coming on nice..

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