Installing Huanyung VFD on Heiz Zero3 Controller

[artmin]

Thanks Boyan,

That was my worry. They are two separate units and don't have a common ground. Added to that one is a digital common ground for the start forward and one is an analogue ground for speed, so different I presume?

I haven't received the CNC controller yet so I can't probe any ports at the moment. I'm still trying to figure out what the lower 25 pin 0-10V port is for

Gavin

[Boyan Silyavski]

That was my worry. They are two separate units and don't have a common ground. Added to that one is a digital common ground for the start forward and one is an analogue ground for speed, so different I presume?


Gavin

Hey, i missed that. They must not have a common ground or connections to current from other circuits. They must be isolated. I speak for the 0-10VDC. Not for the ground of the box and the VFD ground. Thats why usually they are on separate PSU, the spindle speed control i mean. Assuming that they have that integrated, you only need to know wher to take + and - from. Nothing more.

In fact you must measure with multimeter to check continuity between spindle control - / 0-10VDC/ and VFD - input/ for the speed control/. There must be none.




Start forward on spindle, typically is implemented on VFD by closing a contact. usually the VFD provides the 24VDC and from breakout board side just a relay has to be closed, then the VFD knows to start. Once the relay is off, the VFD stops the motor. Look at the picture of your VFD schematics and you will see it. Anything different from that would be very strange.

[artmin]

Thanks Boyan,

You have answered the question whether I can join the digital & analogue earths within the VFD. I tested for continuity between them and they are certainly separate.

I hope to receive the new controller this week, but with the backlog of work I'm not going to have time to play with it, so I'll run it with the old Kress spindle in the meantime. As soon as I get a moment I'll probe the ports and see what I am getting from them. I was thinking that to get the speed control that I could maybe use pins 18 & 19 and connect those to VI & ACM of the VFD, but maybe that's mixing grounds between different machines again. If I'm stuck, to switch the spindle on & off, I can use the 240V spindle output to power a relay to operate contact between FOR & DCM and I have a 10k pot to operate the speed.

I'll update this as soon as I get any further.

Thank you,

Gavin

[Boyan Silyavski]

To me its definitely best to control spindle speed from software not pot. Cause there are certain moments when same tool will need different speeds for different tool paths.

And so a mistake could not happen if you forget to change speed manually.

[artmin]

I have this sorted

The Heiz controller has been configured for a Mechatron VFD. The manual is not very clear as to the 25pin port functions. The Heiz Zero3 port 'LPT2' connects to a second port on the PC (I am just using the standard printer port for LPT2 and a PCI parallel card for the more important LPT1). The port '0-10V' does then serve to supply the voltage & switching functions.

To avoid joining the ACM & DCM grounds of the VFD, I have configured for the Huanyung as follows:

Port 0-10V, pin 14 (constant 3.25V) connected to the 5V coil of a reed relay which is operated through switching (to ground) pin1. The switched terminals of the relay open & close FOR & DCM of the VFD

Port 0-10V, pin 18 (+ve 0-10V) and pin 25 (ground) then supply the variable voltage to control the spindle speed between VI & ACM of the VFD.

Configure port input I222 hood - query ready signal cabinet HF spindle LPT2 PIN 12 (for WINPC-NC)

The Huanyung is then good to go. The only thing wrong at the moment is the spindle speed is running at +30% across the speed range but I will add a trimmer to adjust this.

Thank you Boyan for saving me from smoking the VFD at the outset

Gavin

[Pontomira]

I have this sorted

The Heiz controller has been configured for a Mechatron VFD. The manual is not very clear as to the 25pin port functions. The Heiz Zero3 port 'LPT2' connects to a second port on the PC (I am just using the standard printer port for LPT2 and a PCI parallel card for the more important LPT1). The port '0-10V' does then serve to supply the voltage & switching functions.

To avoid joining the ACM & DCM grounds of the VFD, I have configured for the Huanyung as follows:

Port 0-10V, pin 14 (constant 3.25V) connected to the 5V coil of a reed relay which is operated through switching (to ground) pin1. The switched terminals of the relay open & close FOR & DCM of the VFD

Port 0-10V, pin 18 (+ve 0-10V) and pin 25 (ground) then supply the variable voltage to control the spindle speed between VI & ACM of the VFD.

Configure port input I222 hood - query ready signal cabinet HF spindle LPT2 PIN 12 (for WINPC-NC)

The Huanyung is then good to go. The only thing wrong at the moment is the spindle speed is running at +30% across the speed range but I will add a trimmer to adjust this.

Thank you Boyan for saving me from smoking the VFD at the outset

Gavin

Gavin, i want to do exactly what you have done. I have a Zero3 from Heiz and i want to install a spindle like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VFD-DRIVE-W...from=R40&rt=nc

So that i can use WINPC-NC and just send speed control over the controller automatically.

Could you create or explain exactly what you have done? There is still a few things i don't understand.

Thanks, in advance

[artmin]

I’ll do what I can to help, though I’ll have to do a bit of revision as I don’t remember a lot of it.

The one component that I added to ensure separate grounds was a small reed relay: using lpt2 pin 14 for a voltage supply and grounding it using pin 1 let the relay output switch the vfd on & off. Pin 18 sends the variable voltage to the vfd for the variable speed.

How far have you got yourself?

Gavin