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    how you can trust your measurements with meter like that.
    I compared all my flukes with those cheap crap and they were miles away - mostly in A mode, even voltage was off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyan Silyavski View Post
    Forgive me my ignorance, but how is that better than my 10 euro multimeter from lidl pdm 250 a2? I see the bench one could measure temperature, but i have very good laser gun thermometer to 1300C . Anything else that one might need ? In the DIY CNC line of things i mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J View Post
    how you can trust your measurements with meter like that.
    I compared all my flukes with those cheap crap and they were miles away - mostly in A mode, even voltage was off.
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    The accuracy of the UT-801 for my purposes is adequate. The €10 meters are OK for checking continuity. Voltage, resistance and current within 5% is OK if you know the limitations.
    My UT-801 will sit on a bench, it doesn't have to be rugged. I am not in the habit of flinging the meter across the shop in frustration, therefore it doesn't need to be a Fluke.
    The main difference between the UT-801 and a Fluke 87V is £300, which is the most significant one for me.

    Cheers,

    Rob

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    Rob you are forgetting that the Fluke lets out scented magic smoke.
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  6. #4
    My £30 multimeter has arrived from Maplins and it's freaking enormous...

    Compared it to my Fluke on the thing I am fixing...

    Fluke 1.888V UNI-T 1.887V
    Fluke 1.792V UNI-T 1.794V

    Close enough, possibly true

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  8. #5
    Guys, could you help me a bit with sth else please? Now that i learned about Fluke and Maplin , could sb point me to a soldering gun? I have about 4 crappy ones, and i am still not happy. Most welding that i do is CNC wiring and similar. Fine stuff i bring downtown to repair shop.

    I have currently:
    -German made 40W straight simple one, its a bit shaky and the cable is old and hardened. Otherwise its a wonderfully working but now tip also is hacked
    -Same as above 80w from Lidl. Good one but cable is hard again, and i hate that.

    the above 2 are ok for electronics but i always forget them on and could not find good new tips.

    - have 2 Guns. One smaller and 1 bigger. Aldi and Lidl. In my childhood my father had one like these / Russian maybe/ and was doing all with it. It was such nice and easy to use. Problem is that the smaller is not heating enough and the bigger is heating too much and tips burned faster of the big one. The smaller has tips that do not attract well the solder flow..


    So having all that in mind, i am not happy. Today i had to solder all day. So i went to repair shop and asked for advice, my friend was not there, his wife said she could order one JBC, like the simple one they use. I looked at it , nice, but 50euro. Ok , not that i am cheap but it again will be forgotten and will not be usefull for connecting together 3 thick cables, for example.

    I was browsing now ebay and saw that baby: JBC2100





    So the question is :
    -will that cover my needs? at least to me it seems that it will
    -this or a clone. leaning towards the original, though clone is mere 12 euro here localy


    Anybody uses this one?
    project 1 , 2, Dust Shoe ...

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    Boyan If you are serious about soldering you need a temperature controlled one I have two of these type http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Profession...-/252506802608
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Profession...-/282136153280
    They can be left on all day without problems the bits are replaceable with different temperatures and automatically switch the current on and off.

    I more modern one has the temp. control on the box. But will cost about £200 + The lead is made of silicone and flexible
    I have had mine more than 30 years and still going strong they heat up in seconds.
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  11. #7
    I have used an Antex TCS50 for years* and if it gives up before me I would replace it with this https://www.rapidonline.com/antex-t4...d-iron-85-0555
    For big joints I use a large tip to transfer heat quickly, but the tips go down to needle point, 2.3mm is the tip supplied, but I find this one useful https://www.rapidonline.com/antex-b1...s-iron-85-0511

    I have a dislike of the rapid heat guns, I used to have a Russian one with a bakelite case - it was downright dangeroos.

    Cheers,

    Rob

    *Held together with cable ties and superglue now
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  13. #8
    I'll agree with Clive here.

    I've used the traditional, cheap solder guns in the past and I hate them. Truly hate them. They're okay to dump heat into a mass of metal but there's no precision, and they are clumsy at best.

    Now, the one Boyan linked, I know nothing about, but it's clearly designed to operate as an iron, rather than a gun (45 second heat-up time, "maintenance wattage" and so on). So, non of the advantage of a gun (not that there are many) and non of the finesse of an iron.

    Boyan, if you want a crude iron for soldering big cables, why not look at the flexibility of a gas iron? (I've had good work out of a Iroda iron - e.g. ebay item 191949694792), which will double as a hot gas torch for heat-shrinking and a hot knife for cutting plastic fabrics/mesh). And it's completely portable, of course, and the bits are varied and cheap. About as cheap as the solder gun.

    If, however, you want something all together different and suited to all-day operation then, as Clive says, a temperature controlled iron, or soldering station. I've grown up with Antex irons so I eventually plumbed for an Antex 660A station (e.g. ebay 380947367317) - though these cost about twice as much as the gun. A good choice of bits and plenty of power - it does anything I want of it. But, irons are very personal items, different people prefer different irons - Weller are well respected but I've never found them comfortable to use - and overpriced IMHO.

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