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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by JW1977 View Post
    Offcourse, thats how its done, thanks!
    Well then i have a pretty good idea how to do this for X and for Y.
    Im not really sure about Z yet. How do you put the "down" limit for the Z axis?
    Lots of people don’t have one since the height of the workpiece and stick out of the tool are variable so there is no obvious place to put it unless you set it up in a variable position to suit each job
    Last edited by routercnc; 04-09-2019 at 12:43 PM.
    Building a CNC machine to make a better one since 2010 . . .
    MK1 (1st photo), MK2, MK3, MK4

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by routercnc View Post
    Lots of people don’t have one since the height of the workpiece and stick out of the tool are variable so there is no obvious place to put it unless you set it up in a variable position to suit each job
    I'm planning on putting mine so that the ballnut doesn't impact the BK/BF mount, and so that the carriages don't fall off the linear rails.

  3. #3
    As usual
    the devil is going to be in the detail
    when looking for the solution to problems connecting limit switches to breakout boards
    for instance the LJ12A3_4_Z_BX proximity switch does not have the simple open collector NPN transistor output you may expect going by some adverts and data sheets
    It has a hidden 10K pull up resistor connecting the output to the positive supply !Click image for larger version. 

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    with ref to the diagram in post 24
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    adding the diodes works with the usual TTL inputs found on most BOB's
    that requires the switch to either ground the input or go open circuit

    some Chinese BOB's have opto isolated inputs with a PC817 input LED and current limiting resistor connected to +10V

    the Geckodrive G540 has its opto isolator connected to +12V and has a 2K2 current limiting resistor
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    so you don't always see 5V across the BOB's open circuit input and ground terminals !

    BOB's like CNC4PC's C31 need a positive 24V input
    so if you are using proximity switches you need one with a PNP output
    to pull the BOB's input up to the positive supply

    many Chinese BOB inputs connect to either a 74HC14 or 72HC245 logic
    IC input
    (see the upper left hand corner and centre of this diagram for the Chinese BOB input
    Lower left hand corner for the C31 )

    Click image for larger version. 

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    ( I prefer N/C switches because a broken wire will be trip the axis limit
    with N/O switches a broken wire will not be detected )


    John
    Last edited by john swift; 04-09-2019 at 04:34 PM. Reason: correct a diagram

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  5. #4
    Well written John 👍
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

  6. #5
    As per reply #17 to this thread:

    John, this topic was discussed (with the internal circuit you reprint) in 2016, till I got sick of it. The LJ12A3etc is designed for industrial 24v control sensing, but it works equally well switching amateur 5v (without diodes) if your BoB pulls the pin to logic 1 at 5v. The supply voltage to the device electronics has to be min 10v max 36, it will work below 10v, but not reliably, presumably because the oscillator duzzn't buzz. It has an internal 10k, but even so, the thing operates for practical purposes, just as if it is a NO relay on the blue and black wires. I happily use them with a 12v supply with the black wire connected directly to the BoB input.

    Peace and Love

    Rob-T

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  8. #6
    So, anybody got a good source for proximity sensors?
    As i have understood, im in the market for the inductive kind. 4 mm sensing distance would do it and NPN/PNP should not matter with the Csmio IP-M. Emergency switch, some resistors and a main switch is also on the shopping list right now...
    Last edited by JW1977; 05-09-2019 at 08:08 AM.

  9. #7
    it depends on the budget your working to

    if its a hobby machine then try amazon or ebay etc
    buy 1 to check the quality then order the others you need

    for a business machine you use to make a living
    look at industrial suppliers like RS Components , Farnell or Rapidonline
    for original proximity sensors not the cheep clones found else ware online

    you will pay more but they will be to the published specification
    example
    https://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mcp...imity%20sensor

    John

    PS
    after looking at your location

    https://se.farnell.com/

    https://se.farnell.com/multicomp/mcp...weden%2Fsearch
    Last edited by john swift; 05-09-2019 at 04:57 PM. Reason: add example link to https://se.farnell.com/

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  11. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by JW1977 View Post
    So, anybody got a good source for proximity sensors?
    As i have understood, im in the market for the inductive kind. 4 mm sensing distance would do it and NPN/PNP should not matter with the Csmio IP-M. Emergency switch, some resistors and a main switch is also on the shopping list right now...
    Why the resistors.? You don't need any for the IP/M

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