Thread: need help! choosing right kit
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16-09-2014 #1
thank you very much JAZZCNC for your help
i think i will go to ballscrew as you suggest
one 2510 for X (2m long) but what about wrapping..
one 1610 for Y (1.2 m)
one 1605 for Z (0.5 m)
according to eq. from cncrouterpart suitable V = sqrt(mh)*32 which mean that Nema34 with 3.4mh required 59v for best performance which is close to 60v PS is this correct
i know that Nema23 425oz is better specially for speed but as you mentioned it requires at least 72V which is not available
can i use central 2525 ball screw with Nema34 for X and Y axis
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17-09-2014 #2
Dont do that. Especially at that size gantry and that Z travel.
At 300mm z travel you have to make sure when you design it, that the long ball screws are more or less on the height where the cut happens. One design consideration most people overlook.
That is good for you because you will have maximum actual travel 2000mm long - ball nut legth
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17-09-2014 #3
To reduce the risk i will reduce the overall machine size frame to 2000*1150*400 mm
X one ballscrew 2510 length 1750
Y one ballscrew 2510 length 950mm
z one ballscrew 1605 length 300 mm
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17-09-2014 #4
i also plan to use design made from steel like this
X gantry using 50*70*3mm box
all bed made using steel
one central ballscrew 2510 for X gantry
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17-09-2014 #5
also i plan to pay this steppers
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-PCS...789406140.html
i am confused vender say suitable PS 24-48V but acoording to sqrt(3.8 mh) * 32 = 62V ???
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17-09-2014 #6
i need advice JAZZCNC for ordering one Power supply 70V~90V 12A in this link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/800W-...126181657.html
i already have 4 driver 80V 7.8A
and i hope this PS match The JK57HS112-3004 (NM 3 - 425 oZ 3A 6.8mh) with 2510 and 1610
is one enough for 4 nema 23 steppers
thanks
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17-09-2014 #7
thanks irving2008 for reply i appropriate your effort with me thanks again
Single ballscrew on that width isn't going to work,
what is your opinion about the design of steel machine above
Inertia of 25mm screw is too high for a 2.8Nm motor
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17-09-2014 #8
Ok well it,s been said but will say again to backup. Forget Single screw down centre gantry will twist at this width. Forget 25mm screws unless running nema34 with high voltage AC drives.
Now the sqrt(3.8 mh) * 32 is just a guide and in practice you can go higher without any issues or shortening motor life too considerably. (One thing to note because your in a Hot country I would consider putting cooling fans on the motors, PC CPU fans work well)
The PSU you linked too would work ok but first I would look into making your own.?
It's very easy all you need is toroidal transformer, 1 x brdige rectifier and capacitor/s. Obviously these need to be sized to give the output your require which we can help with.
You must have electrical component suppliers like RS components in your country so I would enquire about costs because Unregulated toroidal PSU is much better for CNC when your running near the drives Max voltage.
So Definately go with 2 x 3nm/1610 running 70V. Will warn thou that at 1750mm length with 16mm screws your at the point when whip at higher feeds can cause problems so you may still need to limit motor tuning to lower rapid speeds.?
Also the mounting and alignment will need to be perfect, which it should be anyway, but if your off just a little then this is amplified at this length which can introduce whip and resonance.!
So hopefully now you see why WE all have been asking you to slow down and think about it becasue so many things affect other parts of the machine and for good machine you need balance and components working in harmoney not fighting each other.!! . . . . In CNC we Make LOVE(chips) not WAR. .LolLast edited by JAZZCNC; 17-09-2014 at 09:43 AM.
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