Thread: Reducing the space in my garage.
Hybrid View
-
26-10-2014 #1
Thanks Eddy. I did give that issue some thought. I decided to factor in my own in-experience and concluded that I would carry on building this slightly fragile machine first. I may need to cut plate aluminium in the future, hence the need for v.2.
Spent last evening reading the support offered by Gecko: http://www.geckodrive.com/support/st...or-basics.html . It offered a very helpful understanding of why unregulated supplies are preferrable i.e. motors behaving as alternators. On a three axis machine, using 4 x 3.1Nm motors (CNC4YOU) in parrellel, the numbers appear to be 11.088 amps and 57.25 volts. The numbers on power requirements will need double checking, they seemed low.
Anti-backlah Nuts
Is this a good buy: http://www.damencnc.com/en/component...--spindles/101
I was originally looking for something that worked with a Tr10 x 3, but I have been unable to find a workable solution, other than the MDL-2-TR 10x2D Special Nut, sold by Merchant Dice:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-Z-Axis...item483f9663e7Last edited by Rich; 27-10-2014 at 01:17 PM.
-
27-10-2014 #2
Igus do these, I expect them to be top quality coming from them
http://www.igus.co.uk/wpck/2371/dryl...zgewindemutter
Did you mean a 3 axis machine with 4 motors ?Last edited by EddyCurrent; 27-10-2014 at 11:34 AM.
Spelling mistakes are not intentional, I only seem to see them some time after I've posted
-
27-10-2014 #3
Lol - yes, I'll edit. Thanks for the link!
-
03-11-2014 #4
Spent last week tidying up the gantry, fitting flange bearing and reading, mostly about stepper motors:
http://homepage.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/step/an907a.pdf
https://www.mpja.com/download/18304ms.pdf
http://www.haydonkerk.com/Portals/0/...uators_101.pdf
http://www.selene.co/Blog/2011/08/se...motor-winding/
http://www.micromo.com/microstepping...-and-realities
The aim was to understand how the choice of motor i.e. chopper motors, effects the design of the circuit. Without the depth of knowledge to fully understand everything I have read, there where a number of points I need to carried forward:
(1) Motors can be driven at between 10-24 times there specified voltage. Increasing the multiplier will increase the stiffness of the motor.
(2) A motor is most effective when is it operating within the 'slew' range of the speed torque curve.
(3) Micro-stepping increasing the machines efficiency at the expense of the available holding torque.
The last point is important as it helps limit my expectation of micro-stepping i.e. it won't make up for accuracy lost within the design or the build ) I would imagine this last point is reflected in the 'motorcalcs' spreadsheet, which includes a significant safety factor?
-
03-11-2014 #5
-
03-11-2014 #6
Thanks Eddy, that helps with my working out.
At 8 microsteps the resolution using a pinion with a pitch diameter of 23.87mm is 0.0149mm, and that is good enough for me ) But the holding torque is reduced to 19.5% peak value, per the linked paper. However, with a gear ratio 2.8, holding torque is increased to 54.6% peak value. It seems to follow when the gear ratio is include that 4 microsteps provide a resolution of 0.0106mm, with no loss of holding torque.
-
03-11-2014 #7
Nope you forgot the to include mr Pie.!! . . . .23.87*pi=74.989 /1600=0.0468
Also you shouldn't really think of Micro stepping in terms of increasing resolution. It has more affect making motors smoother.
If you need resolution then best to achive it by lowering the pitch.
Regards voltage then you can easily run those motors above the guide given on Gecko site. They easily run at 68Vdc without any trouble and the extra voltage gives that bit more torque and speed.
The amp you'll require will depend slightly on the type of PSU used. With Unregulated toroidal supply you'll only need aprox 60%-70% of total rated motor amps. IE: 4 x 4.2a=16.8 / 65%=10.92ALast edited by JAZZCNC; 03-11-2014 at 11:21 PM.
Thread Information
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Similar Threads
-
Reducing 12v DC to 0.5V DC no more than 1A draw
By AdCNC in forum General ElectronicsReplies: 18Last Post: 31-12-2022, 08:14 PM -
Reducing costs
By tonygagey in forum Gantry/Router Machines & BuildingReplies: 16Last Post: 13-08-2014, 11:33 AM -
How I almost set fire to my garage...
By cncJim in forum General DiscussionReplies: 26Last Post: 07-02-2014, 11:51 AM -
shed/garage electronics,
By jcb121 in forum General ElectronicsReplies: 12Last Post: 29-07-2013, 10:52 AM -
My garage
By wilfy in forum Workshop & EquipmentReplies: 55Last Post: 18-02-2013, 06:40 PM
Bookmarks