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29-04-2016 #1
Cheers Lee I am sure the 48v supplies adjust on a pot same as 36v so shouldn't be a problem.
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29-04-2016 #2
Cool good luck with that then, interestingly I've just ordered some moxa dr-4524's to use for my control gear, these have an adjustable pot too, what I can't find out is just how much range is in the adjustment.
How much adjustment are you getting from these smps units? I'm after one I can bring down to 12v but with around 60w as it's to power a pc.
Edit: Ahh OK just seen it gives you the range on the meanwell units in the datasheet...
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29-04-2016 #3
So much for a day off only ended up working till 9pm, had to plug it in a try it when I got back, spindle fine, Z axis fine, Y axis with A slaved no problem, X axis just a rumble and rock from motor, too tired to even think about it tonight can't be too serious it didn't go bang! The two working axis have proved already it has all the speed I will ever be able to use in the flat and then some if it lived in a shed the shed would have been rocking. Would have been nice to have it all work but 4 from 5 is better than a kick up the backside.
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29-04-2016 #4
Nm your not the only one as I've had to sit around not doing much today too :(.
Early start in the morning? Post a video of her jogging about with a big cheesy grin of joy? Go on spoil me you know you want to
Will you share with me where you got your spindle and VFD from, that is a good price maybe I was looking in the wrong place but I was seeing £300 for the 2.2's...
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30-04-2016 #5
No problem Lee Fleebay had a 20% off everything offer for a few hours on 6th or 7th of April so I grabbed the VFD and spindle then, full price is £182 ans I got £36 discounted. Still has original offer ships from Germany about 5 days.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2817523492...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I have set up cooling in a 25ltr can of distilled\deionised water removed 10 ltr and added 5ltr of Mono Propylene Glycol to prevent any algae etc, Trying a new idea with pump though a minature 8.5w with 10ft lift seems to be ideal and totally silent.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3913989923...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Great thing is fits into can easily so drill three holes in cap 2x9mm for hose and 1x3mm for cable drop pump in and screw on cap sealed unit, return pipe above water and only noise is the trickle of water from the set up if you listen carefully.
Will post some video as soon as last motor sorted while tuning Y and slaved A tweaking it up, at 5m pm with 2000 accel the whole thing began to walk/run accross the room quite a weight on gantry, so I am going to have to machine either keys or flats or get some decent resin to lock timing pulleys securely, I've tapped 2 x 4mm grub screws into each pulley but would not trust them to hold at the speeds it was moving especially on round end of Ballscrew. I can't see torque or speed being a problem apart from trying to tear my hard work to pieces if I push it to hard.
Another bargain I found may be of interest was the spindle mount under £20 delivered from HongKong and it arrived in 6 days was thinking about machining a large bearing mount but at that price not worth while.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1317724808...%3AMEBIDX%3AITLast edited by lucan07; 30-04-2016 at 12:33 AM.
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30-04-2016 #6
Been thinking about my pulleys and how to secure them over breakfast, it may be obvious that I have little or no engineering experience so is this an acceptable way to lock pulleys securely.
My problem:
Each pulley is drilled and tapped and fitted with opposing 4mm grub screws, but motor and ballscrew shafts to which they are mounted are both round so not an ideal situation and I sure they would eventually move at some point.
My intended solution:
To drill into the pulley and shaft from the end effectively making a semi circular keyway into which I can insert a pin, I am thinking that 2-3mm drill giving 1-1.5mm semi circular key slot in both shaft and pulley would be enough to lock these connections and prevent slippage.
I know keyways tend to be slotted and have vertical sides, but as an amateur who did not consider the amounts of torque involved moving weight at speed
a) is my solution viable?
b) is 2mm or 3mm with a steel pin sufficient to do job?
c) is there a simpler way I haven't considered?Last edited by lucan07; 30-04-2016 at 07:32 AM.
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30-04-2016 #7Each pulley is drilled and tapped and fitted with opposing 4mm grub screws,
Loctite will also hold them on...Clive
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30-04-2016 #8
Drilling into the end, cutting both shaft and pulley, is an established technique but you will find it difficult to do accurately with an aluminium pulley as the drill will start to wander. Also, it's a mistake to drill for grub screws at opposite sides. You are now balancing the force of one grub screw against the other. Much better to drill at 90-120 deg apart, so both grub screws and the bore of the pulley grab the shaft. That might give some useful extra grip. You could just file a small flat on the shaft for one grub screw to bear against?
Good luck - I haven't reached this point on my own machine yet!
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30-04-2016 #9
Got ten minutes to inspect the plug on X axis and it had a problem caused by old age and drugs, I got older massive doses of steroids prescribed eyesight went to crap, some plonker managed to rotate pins by 90% when soldering late the other night, easily fixed glad I didn't use a 6560 for this build the driver would have gone pop and I would be soldering a new TB6560AHQ IC into the board and tales of magic smoke would be told.
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02-05-2016 #10
Bit of progress made over the weekend sorry to say weather was nice so my bikes took most of my free time been neglecting them too much lately they need riding and I need the exercise getting old, London Surrey 100 end of July and Box and Neath hills are both killers if you are out of shape and practice. However fixed problem of slipping pulleys before it occured, a bit of testing/tuning first cuts a few slats of 25mm mdf which I have decided to use for first sacrificial bed, had a selection of 2020 off cuts laying around from printer builds etc so using these for clamping t-slots gives me 5mm to skim as needed. Using 6mm Router bit 1st DOC 3mm 2nd 6mm 3rd 12mm MDF using 12000rpm and 1500mm pm feed no problems with cuts. I have used a BOB I was given I think its a cheap chinese import and I appear to be having occasional problems, axis will refuse to operate in one direction, jogging a different axis then frees the original axis to move as required so another BOB on its way, double checking wiring next on to do list, all wiring is CY shielded cable currently all mounted in small pc tower case whilst waiting for cabinet to arrive so may just be everything to close for comfort. VFD is mounted well away from everthing else.
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