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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    I would be interested in the make and model of the air sourced heat pump as I thought that they were only about 3-4 times the input.
    Here you go,
    https://www.heatpumps4pools.com/prod...ol-heat-pumps/

    "Excellent COPs – from 5.8 to 15.8 due to Inverter technology"

    Depends how hot the air is relative to the water temp, I don't think you can expect the same when you use them to heat your house in the winter as some people are starting to do. Mine is the 27kw single phase one, not 39kw as I originally posted, brain glitch. Once up to temp it just runs at tick over for most of the summer and stops all together on hot days.
    Last edited by devmonkey; 19-01-2020 at 04:12 PM.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by devmonkey View Post
    Here you go,
    https://www.heatpumps4pools.com/prod...ol-heat-pumps/

    "Excellent COPs – from 5.8 to 15.8 due to Inverter technology"

    Depends how hot the air is relative to the water temp, I don't think you can expect the same when you use them to heat your house in the winter as some people are starting to do. Mine is the 27kw single phase one, not 39kw as I originally posted, brain glitch. Once up to temp it just runs at tick over for most of the summer and stops all together on hot days.
    Over here it's called 'reverse cycle air conditioning' you can either heat or cool your house depending on the season. Heating is no good when it's so cold the outside unit freezes up but in more temperate climates like most of Australia it works well. If you need air-con for the summer anyway it's a cost effective heating system to install and to run.
    OK, back on track
    An optimist says the glass is half full, a pessimist says the glass is half empty, an engineer says you're using the wrong sized glass.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by devmonkey View Post
    Here you go,
    https://www.heatpumps4pools.com/prod...ol-heat-pumps/

    "Excellent COPs – from 5.8 to 15.8 due to Inverter technology"
    Thanks for the feedback. But it also states this

    "Bear in mind though that there is no international standard for stating COPs and therefore each manufacturer will state the maximum COP obtainable for their units under optimum temperature and humidity conditions. In reality you may not therefore always acheive the COP rating stated."

    I have been involved in installing a few heat pumps air source and ground source and I believe that they were in the region of about 3-4 to 1. My next door neighbour has had his gas taken out and put in an air source pump. I am very interested to see the results over time.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. But it also states this

    "Bear in mind though that there is no international standard for stating COPs and therefore each manufacturer will state the maximum COP obtainable for their units under optimum temperature and humidity conditions. In reality you may not therefore always acheive the COP rating stated."

    I have been involved in installing a few heat pumps air source and ground source and I believe that they were in the region of about 3-4 to 1. My next door neighbour has had his gas taken out and put in an air source pump. I am very interested to see the results over time.
    Hi Clive,

    All I can tell you is throughout a season the total kwh used by the heat pump is is about the same or less than the 1hp water pump that is switched on for exactly the same time, I have clamp on current monitors on both going to the main energy logger in the house. The heat pump pulls about 2.9kw max and will bring 60m^3 of water from 18 to 28 degrees in a couple of days. Costs about £1k in electricity to run both per season. I have no experience of them in houses although a friend who has also just rebuilt his house is now relying solely on an air sourced heat pump for house heating with hot water boosted with immersion and tells me he is saving a fortune, but he wasn't on mains gas rather oil delivered by tanker which is expensive.

    What maybe of interest is I had a 10kw pump heating a much smaller 10m^3 above ground pool, this was the older generation pump without the inverter and therefore constant compressor speed / current draw. The electricity cost of running this unit was the same per season as the new pool system, therefore it must have been much less efficient.
    Last edited by devmonkey; 20-01-2020 at 10:23 AM.

  5. #5
    Clive
    I looked into heat pumps several year ago, obviously ground source is the most efficient but due to my building plot this is not an option, max for air source is in the region of COP 5
    https://www.viessmann.co.uk/products...s/vitocal-300a
    Regards
    Mike

  6. #6
    OK.I think I have hijacked this thread and taken it off topic sorry. But thanks for the feed back.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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