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    I would be very carfull filling anything like that with that much epoxy and when it cures it can produce a huge amount of heat and contained in a metal tube you could have a small disaster on your hands. If you do want to do this make sure it is extremely slow curing and if anything put some bags of ice around it to keep the heat down and only do a little at a time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Roberts View Post
    He’s talking in terms of adding strength to the machine and he’s right but I was really referring to eliminating resonance more than anything, I can’t see that adding ribs/reinforcing plates wouldn’t add extra strength to the column, I think they would help towards stopping any twist in the column at the very least.

    I think the problem with concrete is that it’s relatively brittle (though I note your suggestion of using rebar), cracks could form in the concrete and over time it may break down inside the column, I don’t know enough but I’m guessing that it doesn’t really have the same dampening properties as other materials, epoxy resin is a favourite but so is kiln dried sand and the sand is cheaper in comparison.

    I think what I will do with mine is to, reinforce the column on the inside, use a mix of aggregate (different sizes, type 2, pea shingle and so on) to then fill the column, then backfill the lot with epoxy resin (filling up the leftover voids) all the way to the top, hopefully creating one solid mass. The idea being the aggregate is just away to use less resin (cost vs. cost) but also brings back the properties of using sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieuk View Post
    I would be very carfull filling anything like that with that much epoxy and when it cures it can produce a huge amount of heat and contained in a metal tube you could have a small disaster on your hands. If you do want to do this make sure it is extremely slow curing and if anything put some bags of ice around it to keep the heat down and only do a little at a time.
    Thanks for the heads up Charlie, is it really that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Roberts View Post
    Thanks for the heads up Charlie, is it really that bad?

    .Me
    depends exactly on the epoxy but yes especially in warm temps, if you left a cup of epoxy to cure on its own you would be surprised how much smoke it can make! its a exothermic reaction so when if heat starts to build its a chain reaction and just gets hotter and hotter and will quickly turn into a smoking and bubbling mess. Ive never had flames but have heard of it. It all so doesn't make any different if you have some sort of filler mixed in with the epoxy so less actual resin to fill the space it will still have the same effect. As i said small quantities a bit at a time in a cold temp is your safest bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieuk View Post
    depends exactly on the epoxy but yes especially in warm temps, if you left a cup of epoxy to cure on its own you would be surprised how much smoke it can make! its a exothermic reaction so when if heat starts to build its a chain reaction and just gets hotter and hotter and will quickly turn into a smoking and bubbling mess. Ive never had flames but have heard of it. It all so doesn't make any different if you have some sort of filler mixed in with the epoxy so less actual resin to fill the space it will still have the same effect. As i said small quantities a bit at a time in a cold temp is your safest bet.
    You don't want to fill it with just epoxy, as that won't dampen anything. You want an epoxy-sand mix, with ~10-15% epoxy. You need a thin, slow setting epoxy to get enough working time. The sand will keep it from getting hot.

    I've mixed up a cup of epoxy sand, and it doesn't get hot at all. A cup of plain epoxy, on the other hand, will exotherm and get very hot in only a few minutes.
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